Isn't it wonderful when you have to pay for another's mistake?!

[Ross]

Originally Posted by toytech

awd and big brakes is a good combo too

AWD makes you go, not stop.
All wheel drive vehicles still only have 4 brakes. Same as a 2wd.
Yes, Big brakes help.

This is why so many 4x4s end up in the ditch in the winter.
Drivers feel that because they have added traction of 4 wheels while under acceleration that they have the same advantage stopping.
Engine braking yes, emergency braking not so much.


Sorry to hear of your vehicle loss Raied. Not that it helps, but, your situation could have been much worse.

I'm playing the waiting game with the insurance company after a hail storm and its frustrating not having control over your own property.

[toytech]

A hard downshift in an awd car is way different than in other cars all 4 tires slow down and provide a ton of braking , but that's in the dry . In the snow ya all cars stop the same or not at all. Most 4x4 split power differently than an awd car , they have open center diffs and send power to the wheels that are slipping usually the back wheels . When you have limited slip center diff it sends power to the wheels with grip and is also usually front wheel biased 60front 40 rear spilt for example . In my Subaru I have a heck of a time getting the rear to swing out in the snow , it just grips and takes off in a straight line , no fun at all.

[Coralgurl]

Originally Posted by toytech

A hard downshift in an awd car is way different than in other cars all 4 tires slow down and provide a ton of braking , but that's in the dry . In the snow ya all cars stop the same or not at all. Most 4x4 split power differently than an awd car , they have open center diffs and send power to the wheels that are slipping usually the back wheels . When you have limited slip center diff it sends power to the wheels with grip and is also usually front wheel biased 60front 40 rear spilt for example . In my Subaru I have a heck of a time getting the rear to swing out in the snow , it just grips and takes off in a straight line , no fun at all.

I have big brembos on my car and know that I can stop quicker than most. I took my husbands van and had to adjust my driving as my stop time was a lot more. Calgary drivers are aggressive, I still see people talking on cell phones all the time, so defensive driving is a must. I watch people for sudden lane changes as I've been cut off to many times, also don't watch the car ahead, but 3-4 in front. And those who constantly ride their brakes-I get away from, can't predict what they are going to do.

And I love swinging out my back end, rwd in the snow -can't resist...lol. Comes in handy for tailgaters, drop a gear, back goes out and they back off....of course at lower speeds, but traction control and stalitytrac keeps things to a minimum.

[jorjef]

Originally Posted by Coralgurl

also don't watch the car ahead, but 3-4 in front

By far the best piece of advise in this thread.