Anyone own a 2013/2014 Subaru Crosstrek or Chevrolet Trax?

[WarDog]

We have a 2013 Venza V6 awd. Huge amount of cargo space for our two dogs. The awd is great with snow tires, however this thing drinks gas. It does come in 4 cyl, but I don't know the L/100. My folks just bought a new Rav4 and they are very happy with the space and milage. I stopped buying domestics eons ago, they are just garbage IMO. Japanese cars are only second to German made, but as toytech stated, are expensive to maintain... I still don't trust Korean cars yet, but they look like good value.

[Slick Fork]

Originally Posted by WarDog

... I stopped buying domestics eons ago, they are just garbage IMO. Japanese cars are only second to German made, but as toytech stated, are expensive to maintain... I still don't trust Korean cars yet, but they look like good value.

I've always had great luck with Domestics, lots of miles and I'm not really gentle with them. Maybe I've been lucky. I've also found them to be typically more feature rich for the same price point than imports. Toyotas in particular have been having a rough go of it lately as far as quality control goes, judging on the amount of recall stories you'd hear in the news the last few years.

[FishyFishy!]

Originally Posted by Slick Fork

I've always had great luck with Domestics, lots of miles and I'm not really gentle with them. Maybe I'issuee been lucky. I've also found them to be typically more feature rich for the same price point than imports. Toyotas in particular have been having a rough go of it lately as far as quality control goes, judging on the amount of recall stories you'd hear in the news the last few years.

Toyotas recalls are nothing short of standing by their product. There has been nothing major, and 95% of the recalled vehicles dont have any issue with the "defective product".

Ive worked for many different dealers. And i'll stand by a Toyota product before any domestic. Chevy and ford simply mask their issues and after warranty, you're completely screwed. When I worked for ford, I would have 10 appointments a day with the same problem. Ford recognized the issue but never did anything about it. Toyota on the other hand, realizes an issue big or small, and offers customers support. Better than most other companies for sure.

[Seriak]

My wife was also looking at a Crosstrek. I just read the article on how the 2013 Crosstrek plus a number of other models have an oil burning issue that Subaru refuses to acknowledge or fix. I am trying to decide if this will affect my decision to buy from the company.

[toytech]

I was just in another training session and my instructor asked a Toyota engineer when he was in japan why we don't have nearly as many special serice tools as the domestics , he replied why make special tools when we can just make better cars . He was dead serious too , we have kaizan at Toyota it means constant improvement , we don't want to leave someone stranded on the side of the road so we have lots of recalls to fix things before there are problems. That's why I love working here.

[Seriak]

It seems like every major dealer has had a massive recall of some sort in the last few years, including Toyota.

[Coasting]

Ugh I hate car shopping... I hate being a girl and trying to go car shopping. I hate being indecisive. I miss my old truck.... I miss when I was getting 800k to a tank even with it being a V8 *sigh*

Another thing I was seeing and heard about is the head gaskets on the subarus is an issue sometimes around 100,000km give or take. No guarantee it will happen, but not a fun job to fix. My bf didn't seem entirely worried about it however but they are really buried in there.

Anyone have any input on the Mitsubishi RVR? Seems comparable. Im unsure if their 2.0 or 2.4l engines. Some places say one thing, others say something different, quite a few reviews about ****ty fuel economy however, but people then don't post what their getting! Argh.

I think the Rav4 is just a bit out of my budget :/