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06-26-2014, 10:14 PM
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I will try and sit on the fence as I have said you dont need to stop using the 2 elements you already are, if you are happy with the brand you use carry on. The difference is the need for balancing the left over sodium chloride. There seems to be this long standing in ground in granite that it does not matter, and to be honest nobody has done many published studies in its effects. The science is there the chemistry is there, hans goes into a lot more detail in regards to the effects having free floating sodium chloride has on both growth and colour of corals, (something to do with stopping further absorption of chloride and carbonates as they have nothing left to bind to) What marine biology and marine chemistry tells us is you have a greater fighting chance of success if you follow what nature requires. Cutting corners I just cant believe in when there is no real point in doing so. So far the arguments on RC have not impressed me or given any real assurance why 2 part is cool. Even stating that they add an unkown quantity of trace elements should be a big red flag. But I am not going to get drawn into the gurus that host the chemistry forum on RC, its never a wise battle, however I will happily put facts here that I have learned from both Tropic marin and Hans directly. TM Hans, RF and Claude have got together I believe many times at conferences. I have a mass of respect for RHF actually, his knowledge is amazing, I just cant agree with the 2-3 part concept thats all, its missing chunks of marine chemistry as Hans showed many years ago now that spawned all the off shoots such as two part. My personal thoughts are those off shoots came from the desire for DIY but had no access to the balanced NACL free trace elements, so it was simply omitted and the became popular and the science got left behind. TM took many years in commercializing Hans system and now the inventor is playing catch up and fighting against the spawn of his own system. People do forget where 2 part came from  Last edited by Aqua-Digital; 06-26-2014 at 10:28 PM. |
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06-26-2014, 10:56 PM
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I just read on the RC reply thread that the assumption is 2 part "can have" the same elements that is in true balling.
This is where 2 part/ 3 part fall apart as there is no assurance to what you are dosing, there is "an assumption" its also a balanced system, BUT there is nobody to stand behind the assumed elements. Anyway I think this could go epic if I dont close this so i will close with my personal thoughts which kind of already state what i said before. This is my belief of history I write this for fun and just to put some light hearted thought into the whole debate. Hans developed a marine chemist way of adding supplements in a balanced way The desire for DIY took hold and the only two elements freely available were calcium and sodium bicarb. NACL free with the trace elements Hans-Werner originally developed was forgotten as its not available in DIY format. DIY became popular as its cheap, nobody for years questioned this too loudly. Hans-Werner probably through frustration decided to commercialize his scientific system and is now fighting against the spawn of his orginal system which has been cut back to the bare bones employing often ungraded salt and unknown quantities iif any of minerals. I will leave you the educated hobbyist to decide which system them feel is best for them.  My wife also wants to see my tonight not stuck to the PC. if you have any questions either email or call me you know I am always available to everyone Thank you to everyone for listening, please make your own thoughts as what is best for you. Last edited by Aqua-Digital; 06-26-2014 at 11:00 PM. |
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