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Old 06-26-2014, 08:40 PM
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But there is only one way of doing it right, proven science

statements like this is what starts these arguments. . I wish that this hobby was as black and white as this statement .. Then everyone would have beautiful tanks and we would all be running them exactly the same..

But there is more then one way to skin a cat . and more then one way to have healthy beautiful corals .
I mean the amount of amazing tanks running driveway deicer , baking soda .. And forbid me for saying .. cheapo IO salt I have seen is enough proof for me.

Maybe I to am just tired of the way this product is being marketed. If i have to read another Hans-warner balling is the only right way thread again I may just have to close my account ...

Does a calcium reactor then also not cause an imbalance ? surely there is not all 70 trace elements in that media ..
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:46 PM
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Maybe I to am just tired of the way this product is being marketed. If i have to read another Hans-warner balling is the only right way thread again I may just have to close my account ...

Does a calcium reactor then also not cause an imbalance ? surely there is not all 70 trace elements in that media ..
#1 nobody asks anyone to read a thread thats your choice

#2 A calcium reactor do not do anything in a balanced way, you have zero control of anything other than effluent output, this is why balling has become so dominant now.
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So by adding TM NACL (part C) you create the balance.
furthermore .
Is there any studies done to show whether or not the imbalance actually has any ill effects on coral ? sure , even if the chemical science behind it shows how an imbalance can happen on paper .. Does it really even matter to the coral ?
somehow i doubt it
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:50 PM
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furthermore .
Is there any studies done to show whether or not the imbalance actually has any ill effects on coral ? sure , even if the chemical science behind it shows how an imbalance can happen on paper .. Does it really even matter to the coral ?
somehow i doubt it
Yes, this was explained in the webinar and also Lou from Tropic marin can give you the details give him a call 413.367.0101 (ask for Lou) quite a few canreefers have he is happy to talk and will happily share with you even more science than I would admit to know.

Thats another thing with this product the guys that make it are happy to talk to anyone directly.
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:13 PM
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this thread takes an interesting turn in the chemistry forum on RC for anyone who is interested in hearing both sides.
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:20 PM
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I was going to reference to that, thanks for bringing that up. anyone wishing to post the link feel free.
I didn't want to post the link , I actually find all this interesting and I can see the arguments from both sides which makes it even more interesting
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:24 PM
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I didn't want to post the link , I actually find all this interesting and I can see the arguments from both sides which makes it even more interesting
good point I dont get dragged into arguments over there, my personal feeling its just peddling a belief not a science.
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:23 PM
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A two part can be a "perfect" product (aside from salinity rising over time, as also happens with balling). It could be designed to exactly replace what is lost during calcification.
Yes this is true but 2 part give nothing to balance the system with. and thats the whole point that keeps being missed

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