Why balling properly is so important

[reefermadness]

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital

As I said you cna take a horse to water but you cant make it drink.

You say "the proper way" is my opinion, again its not my opinion its simple chemistry, You cant defy that fact. Its NOT an opinion, its natural science.

You are not showing any reason why NOT to do it.

TM Balling as developed by Hans Werner Balling is without argument the correct way to keep up with minerals of you tank. If you feel using a cut down method gains you some benefit over this than go for it. But for those that do believe in doing it properly the CORRECT system is available

I cant argue with someone that feels taking short cuts is the right way

Bottom line until you try it you wont know. You can argue as a non user with every corner but the fact still remains, YOU DONT KNOW.

You are right, Im not showing any reason NOT to do it. I never stated any and wasnt trying to make a case for that at all. If anything there would be reasons to do it. Im just not sure that it makes enough or any difference.

The only reason I chose to speak up was because of your language and the way you made it seem like you are doing it wrong if you dont do it and that you wont get good results. My experience goes to the contrary of this.

You like metaphors so here is one. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

[Seriak]

Aqua is in the business of selling products. He has made a great sales pitch on why to buy the product he is selling. It's our job to research his pitch against the known facts. Pure and simple. I personally have had great success with 2-part. Would I have better success with Ballling? Maybe, but at this time, it's not worth the added cost.

[Aqua-Digital]

Originally Posted by Seriak

Aqua is in the business of selling products. He has made a great sales pitch on why to buy the product he is selling. It's our job to research his pitch against the known facts. Pure and simple. I personally have had great success with 2-part. Would I have better success with Ballling? Maybe, but at this time, it's not worth the added cost.

I appreciate the post, thanks

Think about adding just Part C to your system then thats all you have to do. There is nothing different in TM A and B which is sodium and calcium other than being lab grade pure and certified. People opt to use the whole TM system as they feel more secure knowing it is proven and tested pure. But if thats not a concern then go with TM part C only and add the third stage to your system.

[don.ald]

If one was to only use part c, how would you measure or test for dose amounts?

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital

Part C should equal the depletion rate of Part B of your system is balanced. Part B is sodium Chloride.

I beg to differ! As far as I know (if what's written on the package is true), part B is Sodium Bicarbonate.

Sorry couldn't help myself I will just slowly move away now

[Aqua-Digital]

LOL yes sorry bad typo thanks for correcting that. My bad modified to save a reef central back lash

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital

LOL yes sorry bad typo thanks for correcting that. My bad modified to save a reef central back lash

Now...new era marine grazer is not a questionable product right Michael? Then why can't I find it anywhere in Calgary!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to highjack

[Aqua-Digital]

So to summerize before this all falls apart.

Hans werner balling developed a system that keeps your system in check by adding in balance all the required minerals to your system.

Just as with 2 part and 3 part Han's system also raises salinity but unlike 2-3 part it is raising it in balance meaning the remaining sodium chloride left behind that the corals do not consume is balanced with the part C + trace elements.

The left over sodium chloride in the balling system plus part C with the trace elements = natural sea water

The left over sodium chloride in 2-3 part does not, of if you wish to believe it comes with some trace elements, then more scary its adding things you have no clue of what or what amount.

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital

LOL yes sorry bad typo thanks for correcting that. My bad modified to save a reef central back lash

lol

[Aqua-Digital]

Originally Posted by reefermadness

There is more than one way to skin a cat.

But there is only one way of doing it right, proven science

Ok lets break this down

your corals remove the carbonate and calcium from the 2 part leaving you with "sodium chloride"

so now you have extra sodium chloride in you system an imbalance which cant be balanced by water changes as shown before.

You can keep doing your 2 part nobody is saying you cant but to address the chemical imbalance you need to add the NACL, not any NACL as that does not achieve much but NACL that has all the 70 trace elements.

So keep doing your 2 part, just think about adding Part C to the mix to create the right balance.

I am quite sure that would be very advantageous.

Part C is also not 3 part as sold which adds magnesium only! Part C in the TM original system is everything you find in sea salt but with the sodium chloride removed as you already have that in your system you are trying to balance.

So by adding TM NACL (part C) you create the balance.

Nobody says you have to buy the whole of A and B if you really are so against it, use your own, its the part C that matters