Coral experiments

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by MitchM

Sorry, but what was the point of this?

Please stop.



There are proper studies being done regarding the effects of water temperature on coral.

This does not give our hobby a good name by any means.

i will send in your concerns to the caring parties for sure , thanks though

[reefwars]

so if i were to stick a rock outside with aiptasia on it you would you say its sad and to stop?


how about if i wanted to kill off some hydroids or get rid of a large predatory crab?

its amazing whats cool and what isnt in this hobby and how many hypocrites there are lol

who are you to sit up there and do one thing while you cast your opions downward huh?

the fact that anyone even has a tank makes your arguments void

amazing indeed lol

[MitchM]

I'm going to ask that this thread be locked.
This is not the way that you or anyone else should be treating the animals in our care.

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by MitchM

I'm going to ask that this thread be locked.
This is not he way that you or anyone else should be treating the animals in our care.

did you not read my last post ?


how is it any different then throwing out a rock with aiptasia?

isnt it knowingly throwing out an animal?


why should this thread be locked , the results for the poll are interesting and fairly even , so while you think hey thats sad others dont and had given an answer/vote and are interested in the findings , if you dont believe me read the RC link i posted but im guessing you didnt do that either right?


lock it if you like........ its not gonna bother me or stop me from going about my business lol


geesh

[reefwars]

putting a blowtorch....laser.....kalk.....epoxy....etc etc etc to my rock and killing all life is fine , killing a single polyp of zoanthids is wrong.

got it lol

[kien]

[MitchM]

Denny, you are a nice guy but you are not a scientist.
You cannot just think up a fun experiment to try out without having a basis of understanding of what you are doing.
Corals are not meant to be frozen for fun "to see what happens".

If this is what you want to do, then learn about what it is you are observing, learn about what it's limitations are and THEN, only THEN, carry out your ideas after ensuring that the coral will not be harmed by what you want to do.

These are not playthings. They are animals, just like aptasia, just like cyanobacteria, just like hydroids, just like nuisance crabs, just like flatworms, ect.

I'm not saying that all of these animals are desirable in our tanks, and I agree that to control some populations of creatures is acceptable, but to try out situations without a basic premise is just cruel.

Sorry buddy.

kien, put the popcorn away....

[jorjef]

I don't think I can bring myself to cut the grass this year.... Trim hedges !!!! Oh the carnage. I have to quit feeding the squirrels too. I'm sure I'm giving them some type of heart disease feeding store bought food. I will thou snare the stupid rabbit if he doesn't vacate by spring. Might eat him too. Top of the food chain, what a glorious place to be. Who loves Labradoodles?..

[Aquattro]

Ok, I guess I had to look.

Here's my thoughts. Experiment? Kinda dumb and pointless to me, and I don't agree with it on a "principles" basis.
However, all of Denny's points are valid. How many hobbyists introduce rocks to crabs in a very sudden time frame? Freshwater dips on bristleworms in a circular fashion? Ya, lots.
But, there really is no difference, morally speaking, in this vs. injecting acid into mojanos. Which I'm going to do this weekend.

However, this thread will get removed if the discussion of these issues isn't carried out respectfully (Denny, Jorjef, re-read that part, k? )
People opposed to it are entitled to their opinion, as Denny is entitled to a rebuttal. But please keep it civil, mature AND respectable.

[reefwars]

I think we went off track a bit and got a bit moral lets go back to the topic


Without a doubt I had response from the coral the next day. I expected a slow recovery and a polyp with slow to no response time , instead I got a fast response of opening and closing but wouldn't heal not even make an attempt

The salinity spike in the thawed cup got me wondering what the ice does to ssltwater exactly like how does it mess with parameters etc

I'm going to freeze another , this time WITHOUT a polyp and test that sucker out and then top it off with ro/DI water back to proper salinity and test it again for comparison