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Old 02-25-2014, 05:04 PM
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I've got a large bottle of Aqua NoPhos which is apparently the equivalent here to the SeaKlear (which I could not seem to source) and made by the same mfr. I never got brave enough to try it but I'm sure that bottle alone could keep my levels low for the rest of my life. Dirt cheap I'm just scared to try it. I've got a spare dosing channel I'm itching to use lol.

My concern is my levels are already at around the 0.04 / 0.05 level and I think at lower levels the stuff isn't as effective and will simply go through my sock and probably precipitate out in my display.
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Old 02-25-2014, 05:42 PM
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sort of what I've seen, LC good to bring down levels but then since a bit of pita other methods (gfo) for long term. A doser with 10 micro sock would ease things just frequent sock changes.
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The hard part is finding 10 micron sock. Typical aquarium socks are 100-200 micron and the LC will pass right through that even if PO4 is attached to it.

I would not recommend LC if your PO4 is under .10 as it will lower alk.
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Thought was Foz Down but appears none in Edm. Guess it's off to the pool places to go bulk. Need socks also as all mine 100's
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If you ask your lfs for a 10 micron sock I'm sure they can get them in for you. We can at least here in Vic.
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Thought was Foz Down but appears none in Edm. Guess it's off to the pool places to go bulk. Need socks also as all mine 100's

I might know a guy who is bringing some in this week if you are still on the hunt for it.
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Old 02-25-2014, 09:38 PM
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Hi Everyone,

Thought I would chime in on this thread.

There is three types of Lanthanum available on the market.
The buffered variety that they use to control phosphate in people.
The pool variety which I wouldn't recommend using as who knows whether there is an algaecide(like copper) in it or they could begin adding it to enhance the product. Not worth the risk imho.
The aquarium variety. I personally have used the aquarium variety for 3 years to keep my phosphates between .02mg/l and .06mg/l in my SPS system with no effect on Alkalinity. The raw product comes highly concentrated and is very expensive. Some people have bad math skills and have overdosed the concentrated product and stressed and/or killed corals/fish. I have created Foz Down to have a safe concentration to minimize this risk. When directions are followed there is no ill effects.

I will have 4 inch 10 micron filter socks in stock this week.

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This is what I have:

http://www.ilovemyoasis.com/commerci...aw/no_phos.pdf

I'm wondering if they'd have to list things like copper etc on this document if it contained anything other than LC?
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Tim: no Foz Down in Edm, nor can I say I've ever seen 10 micro socks can I order from you?
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This is what I have:

http://www.ilovemyoasis.com/commerci...aw/no_phos.pdf

I'm wondering if they'd have to list things like copper etc on this document if it contained anything other than LC?
I checked the MSDS and it does not list copper. It does not list the purity of the LC which can be from 99% to 99.999%. It also does not mention the liquid used to dissolve the LC in. So who knows what is exactly in the product.

The reason for using LC in pools is to control algae. They also use Copper sulfate to control algae in pools. It could make a more powerful product to control algae by adding copper to the LC. They could also try cutting costs by reducing the LC and adding Copper to keep the net effect the same. There is so many variables that could affect the ingredients it's hard to know. To me it's not worth the risk of experimenting by using a pool based product.

For a 100 gallon system a $30 bottle of Foz Down will neutralize 10mg/l of Phosphate. This would probably last for a year with an average fish load. I have personally tested the aquarium grade for 3 years on my acro culture system with no ill effects. I know the product is safe for acros, clams, shrimp etc. I have no experience with the pool product.

Is money saved by buying the pool product and is it worth the risk of not knowing until it's too late.

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