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Old 12-20-2013, 01:28 AM
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A few you you might have read a couple threads i wrote about a up coming build im planing. And the work needed in the room to make it fit...
The amount of work and money moving furnace, electrical panel, hot water tank and finishing the room, started to weigh on me, so I started thinking about ways to fix this...
what I came up with was build a new wall, and lose 6-8 feet in the living room..
I asked the wife her thoughts and to my surprise she likes that idea a lot more then the reno i had first planed ....
there is a window on one wall , so that could be a problem, I think its in a ok spot that wont affect the build, worst case is i build the new wall on a bit of a angle to avoid the window...

this new plan gives me a lot more room to play with ideas
i was going to build a 72x36x36 (and this will be the min size of it)
i still want a 36" deep tank, but might be able to go 42 or 48" wide and up to 10 feet long.... max would be 1200x36x48 (48" wide will depend on the window)

where do you draw the line ? how big is to big?

I dont see much cost difference in running a 72x36x36 - 1200x36x36
what are your thoughts on this?
at what size of tank do you got to up the glass thickness ?
was planing of going with 19mm

do you or have you have had a huge tank and wish you never went as big
whats the biggest tank you have had?

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Old 12-20-2013, 01:41 AM
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I think you are on the right track with the reno ideas, losing a few feet of a room versus thousands of $$$ and time to do all the things you where thinking about.

I am not the one to ask about tank size that is a for sure but starting with a 65 gal, then a second 65 gal, up to a 155 gal bow front, moving to my 8' 165 gal and now finally putting a ton of effort on my 8' 300 gal once its all done and running I will be more then happy to stay with it for many yrs. But that doesn't mean that this is going to be my only tank.
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:52 AM
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I dont see much cost difference in running a 72x36x36 - 1200x36x36
what are your thoughts on this?
I don't have a giant tank, mine is only 30"x24"x24" (LDH). But one of the reasons I went with this size is at I could use just 1 led light, but if I went with a standard 90 I would need 2. So one of the differences in an extra 4' (I assume you meant 120, not 100 ft) is extra lights, in addition to extra everything (tank, pump, rock, sand, etc). For me that would not be an insignificant extra cost. As for ongoing extra cost, there is that much more maintainance involved: water changes, vacuuming, scraping, and so on.

Clearly you are the only one who can decide what's appropriate amount of time and money to spend. I would find the prospect of running a tank that big daunting, but the prospect of looking at such a tank a treat.

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Old 12-20-2013, 02:27 AM
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I think you are on the right track with the reno ideas, losing a few feet of a room versus thousands of $$$ and time to do all the things you where thinking about.

I am not the one to ask about tank size that is a for sure but starting with a 65 gal, then a second 65 gal, up to a 155 gal bow front, moving to my 8' 165 gal and now finally putting a ton of effort on my 8' 300 gal once its all done and running I will be more then happy to stay with it for many yrs. But that doesn't mean that this is going to be my only tank.
I think so too, and this will also mean theres water pumping sooner too
the cost saving in going this way will pay for the glass and the rock wall kinda like bluetang's tank....
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:40 AM
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I don't have a giant tank, mine is only 30"x24"x24" (LDH). But one of the reasons I went with this size is at I could use just 1 led light, but if I went with a standard 90 I would need 2. So one of the differences in an extra 4' (I assume you meant 120, not 100 ft) is extra lights, in addition to extra everything (tank, pump, rock, sand, etc). For me that would not be an insignificant extra cost. As for ongoing extra cost, there is that much more maintainance involved: water changes, vacuuming, scraping, and so on.

Clearly you are the only one who can decide what's appropriate amount of time and money to spend. I would find the prospect of running a tank that big daunting, but the prospect of looking at such a tank a treat.

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yes i meant 120" not 1200"
1200 is to big, that would be a full time job, and id be single again

the start up cost will be very high no matter what size I end up with ,
up sizing the pumps, adding a extra light or 2 doesnt bother me...
just might add a couple months to when its alive, as my wife doesnt want me taking out of the saving account, so I will be adding every month till its ready. I want this to be as self contained as possible because of my job.

its just a little more salt and additives etc to maintain it right?
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I will be more then happy to stay with it for many yrs.
many years is the main thing, before when I was doing aquariums, i was always upgrading and going a little bigger then a little bigger it never ended
this it it, last one, I want it to be right as theres no changing or going back...
I think Im going to copy a lot of your ideas, as they are so well thought out and clean...
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Ohhh not at all. Just figured you would a better discussion here..
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Old 12-20-2013, 04:18 AM
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Not sure why you want a 36 inch deep tank, unless your arms are 6 feet long good luck working in it, with the euro racing on my current tank at 24 inches I have a hard time getting to the bottom and I am 6'5". Aside from that lighting is hard on deep tanks if you want to keep a reef. Personally wouldn't go more than 30, I am a 24 inch guy and like that depth. As for cost a few inches in length really changes flow and what power heads you need. Once the tank gets large too got to think of cost of heating and such. Our tank takes a pile of power to stay warm. Need larger skimmer and such, plus when I do a water change its about 100 gallons a week, that in its self costs 30-40 bucks. Something to keep your mind open about. On that 3 foot deep tank you would dam near need 400 watt halides or a piles of led but don't know how they penetrate. All comes down to which direction you want to take the tank.

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