You get what you pay for?! A marketing hype or a reality?

[intarsiabox]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

The points I put forth for LEDs are related to "cost" and that is an independent to owning one. Companies say you save money with LED, I prove you don't. I have never said anything related to growth/coloration which is what depends on true experience. I did talk about disco affect which is something non-debatable.

" Although english is not my first language but I think there's a well understood difference between "disagree" and "debate" and I am capable enough to understand the difference."

I guess I am just misinterpreting your comments then.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by intarsiabox

" Although english is not my first language but I think there's a well understood difference between "disagree" and "debate" and I am capable enough to understand the difference."

I guess I am just misinterpreting your comments then.

The lines you made bold are from a completely different thread where I showed that "expensive" LEDs cost benefit is extremely low. That's a completely different thread; Bill just pointed it out since I am well known to trigger such conclusions . And its about disproving the advertisement by those companies; I also pointed out good sides of LEDs in that thread too but I wouldn't buy the main line that all those companies put forth for LED; atleast not for the next 2/3 years. Its math

And about the disco; its not debatable because its either there or its not there for certain fixture....you cannot say you can't have a disco affect from a razor fixture.

Sorry for misinterpreting your comment. Those two points were from a thread few months ago so I just brought it up in context. My apology

[intarsiabox]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

The lines you made bold are from a completely different thread where I showed that "expensive" LEDs cost benefit is extremely low. That's a completely different thread; Bill just pointed it out since I am well known to trigger such conclusions . And its about disproving the advertisement by those companies; I also pointed out good sides of LEDs in that thread too but I wouldn't buy the main line that all those companies put forth for LED; atleast not for the next 2/3 years. Its math

And about the disco; its not debatable because its either there or its not there for certain fixture....you cannot say you can't have a disco affect from a razor fixture.

Sorry for misinterpreting your comment. Those two points were from a thread few months ago so I just brought it up in context. My apology

Well I'm also grouchy today because I spent the day in freezing cold sump pit replacing pumps and then had to come home to 1 1/2 hours of shovelling snow. Now I have to proof read another of my wife's reports for her university degree which I know absolutely nothing about the subject (or care to) but have a knack for grammar and making her wording flow better and make more sense. I can actually write better than I do on Canreef.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by intarsiabox

Well I'm also grouchy today because I spent the day in freezing cold sump pit replacing pumps and then had to come home to 1 1/2 hours of shovelling snow. Now I have to proof read another of my wife's reports for her university degree which I know absolutely nothing about the subject (or care to) but have a knack for grammar and making her wording flow better and make more sense. I can actually write better than I do on Canreef.

Best of luck reviewing the report

I am still at the university staring at thousands of data in excel and trying to make fancy diagrams using illustrator....its just one of those days :P

Really sorry for escalating your mood with this thread.

[Doug]

I said, I dont want cords in my tank..................................Not in my sump

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Doug

I said, I dont want cords in my tank..................................Not in my sump

You said that?! Sorry Doug but that wasn't pointed at you Just an awkward coincidence

[Doug]

I know. Thats was suppose to be funny.

As for Tunze in comparison, I have owned more Tunze equipment than many. My 20g sps tank runs on the new Tunze 250 ReefPack.

As for pumps, I ran a pair of 6200 streams in my 225 and one in smaller tanks. They were the best pumps I owned, even the one that shorted out and sent lightning bolts from my metal halide reflector to my forehead. {many long term members will remember that story, }.

I just really like my MP 20. Ran flawless for years. Was going to buy Tunze for the new tank, but decided on adding an MP 40. And the two Im buying are used.