ATI LED/T5 Combo?

[waynemah]

Denny, would you say having the LED is worth the price hike from the sunpower?

[denny_C]

Originally Posted by waynemah

Denny, would you say having the LED is worth the price hike from the sunpower?

i would , now not everyone is going to see that as i guess it comes down to budget and what one wants overall.

its too early yet to tell its longterm effects on the corals but theres def quite the price jump from the sunpower , with that said both lights are quality products.

color blending will be better for the powermodule and if the tank is high enough the leds will help there as well.

we had all daves t5's off and just the leds and it lit the whole tank up pretty bright ,colors are very nice and bright, its a 8ft tank running 2 x 36" dimmable t5/led fixtures ,i was told that the t5's would wash out the leds by other suppliers and so far its not the case at all

maintenance and running cost will be roughly the same give or take

i know the guys at MJC have had theirs running for quite some time and they have good reviews as well .

time will tell.

[sphelps]

The ATI with 8 T5s on top of the LEDs is certainly a much brighter light than comparable LED fixtures without the additional T5s but when you guys compare the two tanks at concept keep in mind the 8' tank in Dave's office has 2 4' 8 bult ATI fixtures while the 10' tank with GHLs only have 3 units hung quite high, plus it's like a foot wider. It's virtually impossible to get a good comparison there, you're comparing over 1100 watts to less than 500 on a much larger tank.

That 10' tank needs at least 2 more units (more to be comparable to Dave' tank) with all units moved lower and mounted the other way. I think I've mentioned this a few times

That said the ATI is nice but I still think the functionality that comes will LEDs is lost with the addition of T5s.

[Jakegr]

I'm going to buy either GHL or ATI this week, just no idea which one! Good problem to have obviously.

The biggest downside to the ATI, in my opinion, is the sheer size of the fixture. Not sure I want to go back to the days when I had a 6-bulb Tek light covering my tank. Plus, I'm not sure how the 24" ATI Hybrid would look over my 24" cube.

[waynemah]

Originally Posted by Jakegr

I'm going to buy either GHL or ATI this week, just no idea which one! Good problem to have obviously.

The biggest downside to the ATI, in my opinion, is the sheer size of the fixture. Not sure I want to go back to the days when I had a 6-bulb Tek light covering my tank. Plus, I'm not sure how the 24" ATI Hybrid would look over my 24" cube.

If these are your two options, there is no way you could make the wrong decision...

[Jakegr]

Originally Posted by waynemah

If these are your two options, there is no way you could make the wrong decision...

No kidding! First world problems... I know.

[denny_C]

Originally Posted by sphelps

The ATI with 8 T5s on top of the LEDs is certainly a much brighter light than comparable LED fixtures without the additional T5s but when you guys compare the two tanks at concept keep in mind the 8' tank in Dave's office has 2 4' 8 bult ATI fixtures while the 10' tank with GHLs only have 3 units hung quite high, plus it's like a foot wider. It's virtually impossible to get a good comparison there, you're comparing over 1100 watts to less than 500 on a much larger tank.

That 10' tank needs at least 2 more units (more to be comparable to Dave' tank) with all units moved lower and mounted the other way. I think I've mentioned this a few times

That said the ATI is nice but I still think the functionality that comes will LEDs is lost with the addition of T5s.

its not just in comparison to the 10ft at the store ,i also have said from the beginning that we needed more ghl's on the 10ft tank the idea is to try to get away with as little as possible as they are not cheap, but we will add mnore if the need really arrises. most of the people who we have sold ghl's too through the store have said the same about the ghl's....the light seems dim when they compare it to the ati's

now dont get me wrong i love the ghl's , alot more than the radion pros lol but so far im impressed with the hybrid we will see how it performs in the next few months

im sure though everyones opinion will vary as far as what the bonuses are or arnt or whether or not its worth it in comparison to other fixtures.



both are great fixtures no doubt about it

[sphelps]

Everything will look dim compared to 16 T5s and 300W of LEDs

[denny_C]

Originally Posted by sphelps

Everything will look dim compared to 16 T5s and 300W of LEDs

haha true , i have no idea how many ghls it would take to look as bright as these on an 8ft tank although i am tempted to take down a few ghls and throw them on half of daves tank for a side by side comparison lol

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by denny@concept

haha true , i have no idea how many ghls it would take to look as bright as these on an 8ft tank although i am tempted to take down a few ghls and throw them on half of daves tank for a side by side comparison lol

Well 3 GHLs vs one 4' 8-bulb ATI would still be short on pure wattage alone not to mention the large advantage ATI would have in usable wattage. With the addition of T5s you can effectively crack up LEDs to full and use the T5s to make up the difference needed in blue spectrum while nobody wants to see a GHL at true 100% thus a good chuck of it's power is lost in light tuning. So a potential huge advantage there for ATI.