Any red seal fabricators here?

[spit.fire]

Originally Posted by sirruckus

its the same everywhere, the welding and fabrication is hurting for quality workers.

if you can read drawings as good as a qualified drafts person and actually know weld symbols and procedures your light years ahead of most senior fabricators now a days.

I assume your referring to BCIT, dive in and challenge it.

Not gonna lie, I see a lot of red seal guys that IMO shouldn't have it. Hard to find anyone now adays that does quality work

[The Codfather]

Originally Posted by spit.fire

Not gonna lie, I see a lot of red seal guys that IMO shouldn't have it. Hard to find anyone now adays that does quality work

I see this on a daily basis. Because of the high demand here in Alberta, the quality of apprentice has dropped, and not just a bit, a lot.
We used to have a very high success rate on the red seal, I'd say between 80-90 percent pass rate. Over the last 5 years or so, Im sure that has dropped to 50-60 percent.
Industry has dictated what is acceptable, they need people on site. So if you can fog a mirror, and pass a drug test, you have a job. The quality of apprentice, even new journey boy has drastically dropped.

[sirruckus]

Originally Posted by spit.fire

Not gonna lie, I see a lot of red seal guys that IMO shouldn't have it. Hard to find anyone now adays that does quality work

Pretty much half the red seal people we have interviewed didn't make it past the weld test, the other half are just ok. People over exaggerate credentials for welding abs fabrication, you don't need it to make top dollar if your employer needs skilled men. On the other hand is your plan on something like Alberta, you don't need to be good necessarily, just have a ticket.

[The Codfather]

Originally Posted by sirruckus

On the other hand is your plan on something like Alberta, you don't need to be good necessarily, just have a ticket.

Keep this in mind, if you're good at what you do, you'll keep your job. Ticket or no ticket. This is of course if the company you work for is reputable.

[Ross]

Originally Posted by The Codfather

Keep this in mind, if you're good at what you do, you'll keep your job. Ticket or no ticket. This is of course if the company you work for is reputable.

I have seen many RFQ's where clients are demanding proof of education for all employees. Trades, Engineers, Accountants etc.
People can only be swept under the rug for so long once you get audited by the clients semi regularly.

[The Codfather]

Originally Posted by Ross

I have seen many RFQ's where clients are demanding proof of education for all employees. Trades, Engineers, Accountants etc.
People can only be swept under the rug for so long once you get audited by the clients semi regularly.

I agree with your last two posts. Your education is very important, and in the end it will determine who stays and who goes.
What I was trying to get at was, most companies will find a way to hold on to a "valuable" employee. I think we can both agree that if a client is demanding proof of education, they're looking at the majority.