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![]() Conspiracy movies like Zeitgeist should not be shown to kids.
I tried to watch it a few years ago and turned it off because of it's nonsense. Kids need to learn how our actual economy works and make decisions that will help them make productive choices, not fringe films that are meant to confuse them. I'm not sure the point of this thread, but corporations are a pretty simple concept, a legal entity that allow business people to safely conduct business without putting their personal property at risk.
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![]() Yes because our economies and monetary system is perfect and infallible. They definitely should never be scrutinized. The shenanigans (yes I said it) of Wallstreet is just part of the perfection.
If kids/students can't listen to different ideas and arguments and look on them objectively, we'll that is a shame. Also if we can't think and work on improvements to systems (monetary system being one), that is so closed minded and also sad. Personally I really like the Zeitgeist films (there are 3). I don't agree with everything in them but they are eye openers for sure. They cover a lot of topics, like mental health, religion, war and are probably only 25% about the monetary system. A good documentary to watch about the crash of 2008 and subsequent recession is inside job. It does a good job of laying out the sicking financial moves that lead to one of worst market declines in history. In October '08 the head of the International Monetary Fund/IMF warned that the world financial system was teetering on the "brink of systemic meltdown. I'm not personally against any of this stuff but even if you think something is great you can still try to objectively look at the flaws and think of improvements. I love myself but sometimes I think about how I can be a better person. Then I grab a beer ![]() |
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![]() Zeitgeist reminds me of the hippie movement back in the late 60's and the communes. Then in later life many of them ended up on Wall Street, and in corporations.
As was said, corporations are very simple. People pooling their resources and different skills to create more assets for everyone to share. Some are profitable, some are not. Definitely more efficient and productive than individuals or communes. But we will always have protests and alternative lifestyle movements, as envy and jealously just seems to be part of the human make-up. And it seems our species are not the only ones, as per another thread I posted recently. http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...d.php?t=101358
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And be thankful for what we have. Hmmm, isn't that what this past weekend was supposed to be about?....
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You start out by saying life is never fair and you shouldnt worry about it, than you go on and say we should make good choices and help our kids and those less fortunate. Which one is it?? |
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You probably won't agree with this either, but here is what Bill Gates said to some school kids some time ago (although the source may be in dispute): ----------Whether you like Bill Gates or not...this is pretty cool. Here's some advice Bill Gates recently dished out at a high school speech about 11 things they did not learn in school. He talks about how feel-good, politically correct teaching has created a full generation of kids with no concept of reality and how this concept sets them up for failure in the real world. RULE 1 Life is not fair - get used to it. RULE 2 The world won't care about your self-esteem. The world will expect you to accomplish something BEFORE you feel good about yourself. RULE 3 You will NOT make 40 thousand dollars a year right out of high school. You won't be a vice president with car phone, until you earn both. RULE 4 If you think your teacher is tough, wait till you get a boss. He doesn't have tenure. RULE 5 Flipping burgers is not beneath your dignity. Your grandparents had a different word for burger flipping they called it Opportunity. RULE 6 If you mess up,it's not your parents' fault, so don't whine about your mistakes, learn from them. RULE 7 Before you were born, your parents weren't as boring as they are now. They got that way from paying your bills, cleaning your clothes and listening to you talk about how cool you are. So before you save the rain forest from the parasites of your parent's generation, try delousing the closet in your own room. RULE 8 Your school may have done away with winners and losers, but life has not. In some schools they have abolished failing grades and they'll give you as many times as you want to get the right answer. This doesn't bear the slightest resemblance to ANYTHING in real life. RULE 9 Life is not divided into semesters. You don't get summers off and very few employers are interested in helping you find yourself. Do that on your own time. RULE 10 Television is NOT real life. In real life people actually have to leave the coffee shop and go to jobs. RULE 11 Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one.
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I am also neither closed minded or sad, quite the opposite. In order to view or discuss conspiracy stories, one should have a good understanding of the subject beforehand and a sophistication that allows for an objective understanding of who the presenter is. The "artist" or "activist" does have an agenda. I would prefer to see a respected investigative journalist first dig up some actual facts. Otherwise it's basically just campfire talking points. Also, you can be sure that the presenter has a few corporations of their own, in order to maximize profits from the product that they're selling. I'm also not naive. ![]()
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I'm no huge activist, far from it but at least I can look at this world and be concerned. I don't let it affect my daily life but I acknowledge the messed up stuff I witness/read and engage in a conversation about it sure. Maybe that will increase awareness. Like when I mentioned 18,000 children die of hungry related causes a day. I bet that blew the minds of a lot of people reading it. I know when I first read that statistic I was shocked. Quote:
http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar...tes_speech.htm http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors...m#.UmAJLVP-tWo http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/schoolrules.asp |
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I also never said you were naive. ![]() |