Help spots forming on fish.

[windcoast reefs]

Okay first off, before you go and stress the fish out further, you need to make sure that its ich. And maybe wait for a few other people to chime in with ideas before you tear your whole tank apart.

A few things you want to ask yourself,

Is it scratching on rocks?
Is it spreading?
Is it eating?
Does it look stressed?
And what does it look like (small pure white dots that are solid, or are they transparent)


Watch the fish for a day or 2, and if you see all the above, then consider treating them, I prefer chloraquine phosphate rather than copper or hypo, its much easier, quicker and allot easier on the fish ( you still need to leave the display empty for 6-8 weeks though)

One thing to keep in mind is that Tangs can form small calcium deposits on there fins (usually kinda transparent and a little larger), so it very well could be that, one of my tangs has 2 spots, they have been on him since I bought him 2 years ago and they are small calcium deposits that have formed on the fin (do a search online and you will see a bit on these)

Also I find that if a fish starts to show signs of ich your much better off to try and keep them fed, add amino acids to the food, and try garlic extract, at least until your sure that you have to take them out of the tank.

And no ich will not spread to corals, only fish.

[Slyguy00]

awesome thanks for the input. Ill look that up right now. And im not really sure if it is ich, just preparing for the worst i guess. They have been scratching on the rocks a bit, and it has gotten worse on my sailfin tang. And i just started to notice small spots on one fin on my yellow tang. But at the same time they appear to be somewhat transparent on the fins, but my sailfin has a spec on his eye to. They both seem healthy and are eating lots. And reading up on it further, i believe the cause to my problem might be the fact that the two of them always seem a little bit agressive towards each other. In the morning I will have to decide what route i need to go. Thanks for the helps guys.

[Madreefer]

Better yet. Go to Oceanic Corals in Aldergrove and talk to Paul.
There's a product he has called Medic by Polyplab. It's totally reefsafe. I bought a bellus angel and did not quarantine. Well I introduced Ick to my tank. Day 3 of a 10 day treatment and no sign of Ick.

[George]

I would get all the fish out to a QT tank to observe and treat them. Without a microscope, you can't 100% identify the disease on your fish. But scratching on rocks and white dots certainly indicate there are some kind of parasites. Most likely marine ich, but a couple other parasites also cause similar symptoms.
I am very skeptical of any marine ich treatments that label reef safe. Polyp lab medic is basically Metronidazole and Peroxide acids.
Metronidazole is an antibiotics. Although there are scientific researches show that hydrogen peroxide can kill some parasites, but marine ich is not listed in the paper.

[Madreefer]

Originally Posted by George

I would get all the fish out to a QT tank to observe and treat them. Without a microscope, you can't 100% identify the disease on your fish. But scratching on rocks and white dots certainly indicate there are some kind of parasites. Most likely marine ich, but a couple other parasites also cause similar symptoms.
I am very skeptical of any marine ich treatments that label reef safe. Polyp lab medic is basically Metronidazole and Peroxide acids.
Metronidazole is an antibiotics. Although there are scientific researches show that hydrogen peroxide can kill some parasites, but marine ich is not listed in the paper.

Well it worked for my fish
Had it not worked I would'nt have suggested to use it.
I have a full tank of SPS corals and had full trust in the guy that told me to use it. Even when he said to double the dose.

[Slyguy00]

I dont suppose there is anybody in abbotsford willing to come take a look at my tank and give me some advice on what the brst way to tackle this is? I have no experience with ich if that is even what this is. Any help wouls b greatllly appreciated

[Madreefer]

Take a cell pic and go to the store I mentioned. It's close to you. You should tackle this problem before it gets too late to help your fish. PM spit.fire he might be able to help. Or post a pic on here

[lastlight]

Originally Posted by Madreefer

Better yet. Go to Oceanic Corals in Aldergrove and talk to Paul.
There's a product he has called Medic by Polyplab. It's totally reefsafe. I bought a bellus angel and did not quarantine. Well I introduced Ick to my tank. Day 3 of a 10 day treatment and no sign of Ick.

Part of the ich life cycle involves them burrowing into the fish's scales and they are not visible isn't that right? I think people commonly think it's gone away when in fact it has not.

[Madreefer]

Originally Posted by lastlight

Part of the ich life cycle involves them burrowing into the fish's scales and they are not visible isn't that right? I think people commonly think it's gone away when in fact it has not.

Thanks. And that is why I'm doing the full 10 day treatment as per the instructions.

[neoh]

Originally Posted by windcoast reefs

Okay first off, before you go and stress the fish out further, you need to make sure that its ich. And maybe wait for a few other people to chime in with ideas before you tear your whole tank apart.

A few things you want to ask yourself,

Is it scratching on rocks?
Is it spreading?
Is it eating?
Does it look stressed?
And what does it look like (small pure white dots that are solid, or are they transparent)


Watch the fish for a day or 2, and if you see all the above, then consider treating them, I prefer chloraquine phosphate rather than copper or hypo, its much easier, quicker and allot easier on the fish ( you still need to leave the display empty for 6-8 weeks though)

One thing to keep in mind is that Tangs can form small calcium deposits on there fins (usually kinda transparent and a little larger), so it very well could be that, one of my tangs has 2 spots, they have been on him since I bought him 2 years ago and they are small calcium deposits that have formed on the fin (do a search online and you will see a bit on these)

Also I find that if a fish starts to show signs of ich your much better off to try and keep them fed, add amino acids to the food, and try garlic extract, at least until your sure that you have to take them out of the tank.

And no ich will not spread to corals, only fish.

+2

As I said - make 100% sure of it before taking the plunge.