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Old 05-16-2013, 01:16 PM
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I use the BRS Mag Sulfate and Mag chloride. I mix as per instructions and dose via their 1.1ml/minute doser every day. Seems to work great for me. It's been about a year.
I do it this way because simply because of the ease. A 1 gal jug lasts me over 6 months easy. I have it by my calcium reactor and just eye it whenever I'm down there to make sure the line feeding back into the sump isn't clogged or the jug hasn't run dry.
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Old 05-17-2013, 12:01 AM
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I use Fauna Marin Magnesium chloride. I add 2 cups to my 15-gallon waterchange tub along with 1 tbsp epsom salt (Magnesium sulfate) using H2Ocean salt. The "perfect" ratio according to Randy Holmes-Farley (I think it was him) is 8.5:1. You do not want to use epsom salt as the primary source because there will be too much sulfate in the tank. It takes a lot of powdered magnesium product to raise magnesium, meaning there is a lot of chloride (or sulfate) being added. Adding the product this way, I do not have to dose magnesium otherwise.
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Old 05-17-2013, 01:46 AM
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Yeah I use the mag chloride and sulfate mix. Or will someday lol. There was a time when I did have to occasionally dose it.
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My guess is the new salt mix is lower in magnesium. Personally I would be happy with 1240ppm and leave it be. If it lowers to 1200ppm you might want to add 100ppm and you can safely do that with epsom salt USP from any pharmacy. Use the reef chemistry calculator to figure out how much, add it to some RO/DI and split the dose into two days.
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I missed answering the "and why?" part of your question... The way I do it is easy, it works, and I don't forget it. I add potassium in the same manner.
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As Myka stated it takes a lot of Magnesium to raise a Mg reading in a tank, so don't be shocked.

I just top up my SW, I know how to much to add to make my ingoing water 1500Mg and that seems to combat the Mg drain just fine. I was using Mag sulfate and Mag chloride from Eli and use the same dosing instructions as per BRS..
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I use the BRS Mag Sulfate and Mag chloride. I mix as per instructions and dose via their 1.1ml/minute doser every day. Seems to work great for me. It's been about a year.
I do it this way because simply because of the ease. A 1 gal jug lasts me over 6 months easy. I have it by my calcium reactor and just eye it whenever I'm down there to make sure the line feeding back into the sump isn't clogged or the jug hasn't run dry.

I too tose BRS Magnesium sulfate and Magnesium chloride and then dose my system via doser (peristaltic) pump. My system is larger then most's so I dose a lot more then most do. I struggle to keep my MG up because I have clams and they do have a noticible uptake. I aim for ~1350ppm-1400ppm personally. As a result I dose in a continuous fashion; nightly.

Things to note; dose your Mg at a different time then your Ca or dKH additives. Add into a high flow area and do it SLOWLY. A Magnesium swing too high might take your system a LONG time to work through, barring water changes.

I dose my Mg at night and keep a buffer of around 4 hours before or after my Ca or dKH was dosed.
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This thread has put me in the mood to take a 2013 Mg reading
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I don't have a doser, but dose manually as required by hand. Works well for me.
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Hi,

I test my mag weekly with a Salifert kit. I have noticed that sometimes there is huge demand and other times nothing. This is when using the same salt mix.

General rule of thumb is 1300 - 1350 or 3 times Calcium, whichever is higher.

I prefer to go heavy on the Mag chloride(550grams per 10litres) and light on the sulfate(80 grams per 10 litres) as there is less ionic imbalance produced. The Chloride combines with Sodium from the Sodium bicarb to form Sodium chloride(salt). Regular water changes take care of the build up of salt. Just google Balling Lite method for more info.

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