ich help

[sphelps]

To prevent the same thing from being posted yet again here's a link the latest thread involving a similar situation.

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...&highlight=ich

And here's another 100 or so...
http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sea...archid=2551652

[pinkreef]

I agree with manchild, ich is always present and fish are more
likely to get an outbreak if they are stressed

[mikepclo]

+1, I'm a believer in this as well. Just seems like a flaw in the life cycle theory. As long as they are eating they can fight it off on their own. I alternate garlic extreme,Selcon and Zeo Immun stabil throughout the week with or without ich breakout.

Originally Posted by pinkreef

I agree with manchild, ich is always present and fish are more
likely to get an outbreak if they are stressed

[George]

Originally Posted by mikepclo

...Just seems like a flaw in the life cycle theory...

Which part of the life cycle of marine ich seems flaw to you?

[mikepclo]

12 weeks without fish in DT and ich still came back without new livestock added. So flaw could be from any part of the life stages. So from my personal experience there seems to be a flaw somewhere. Maybe different strains? But 12 weeks didn't eradicate them.

Originally Posted by George

Which part of the life cycle of marine ich seems flaw to you?

[globaldesigns]

As others stated, just ride it out. If the fish are healthy, they will survive. Just feed them good food and keep the tank params and water quality good.

[daniella3d]

How did you treat your fish for ick? if you did not do an appropriate treatment and simply removed them and put them in QT without treatment, then put them back into the tank, surely enough the ick would be back.

If you did treat them, maybe the treatment was not enough to kill it.

Originally Posted by mikepclo

12 weeks without fish in DT and ich still came back without new livestock added. So flaw could be from any part of the life stages. So from my personal experience there seems to be a flaw somewhere. Maybe different strains? But 12 weeks didn't eradicate them.

[mikepclo]

Treated with copper and and no sign of ich prior to returning to DT tank. But still showed up a month or 2 after returning to DT.

[asylumdown]

Originally Posted by mikepclo

12 weeks without fish in DT and ich still came back without new livestock added. So flaw could be from any part of the life stages. So from my personal experience there seems to be a flaw somewhere. Maybe different strains? But 12 weeks didn't eradicate them.

If the research on ich has shown anything, it's that there's way more variability within the C. irritans species than anyone ever knew. Cysts have been observed remaining dormant for 72 days and still producing infective stages in the laboratory before. That was one strain in one study. No one has identified the mechanism ich tomonts use to time their 'hatching', so I would very easily believe that some strains have an innate capacity to stay encysted even longer. I've seen it posted somewhere (maybe on RC?) that some people have had to fallow tanks for as long as 4 months to completely rid them of ich.

There's a posting from someone from Seachem in their product forums (I think it's in a thread regarding Paraguard) suggesting adding water from your QT system back to your display after you're 100% sure that ich has been eradicated from the QT system. Their logic is that the ich tomonts are sensitive to the presence of fish hormones, and that adding water from a fish system to your display will trigger the more stubborn cysts to hatch. It's never been tested in the published literature, but it's a really interesting idea.

[sam]

well lost my scorpas tank due to ick.
just went peacefully.. ick sucks..... this scorpas tang i had was 6 yrs old...