LEDs and electricity savings

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by sphelps

No

Then why this line?

PS, I didn't get the Mitras to save money and personally don't think you should buy LEDs for the purpose of saving money cause in all reality you probably won't save anything But that wasn't the point here.

[fresh]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

Then why this line?

I presume he meant you will most likely upgrade to LEDs for the purposes of dropping temperature for example.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by fresh

I presume he meant you will most likely upgrade to LEDs for the purposes of dropping temperature for example.

Yap that's the whole point of LED. Save your reef during the summer and the versatility and aesthetics that LEDs give

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

Yap that's the whole point of LED. Save your reef during the summer and the versatility and aesthetics that LEDs give

Maybe that's just your whole point to LED? Mine was solely to reduce evaporation. Nothing more. Sure, they're growing on me, but my point was not your point. And yes, I'll save money as I was changing 3 Radium bulbs every 9 months.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Maybe that's just your whole point to LED? Mine was solely to reduce evaporation. Nothing more. Sure, they're growing on me, but my point was not your point. And yes, I'll save money as I was changing 3 Radium bulbs every 9 months.

Water evaporates to cut down the heat isinit? Like a closed top will evaporate less and rise up the temperature more than a open top. In that case, the heating issue is justified

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

Water evaporates to cut down the heat isinit? Like a closed top will evaporate less and rise up the temperature more than a open top. In that case, the heating issue is justified

I don't even know what you're saying here.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

I don't even know what you're saying here.

"This change of phase (from a liquid to a gas) requires heat, called "latent heat". When water evaporates, it removes heat, lowering the temperature of whatever the water was in contact with. For both water and land surface, most of this heat energy comes from the surface, not from the air. "

Ref: http://www.weatherquestions.com/What_is_evaporation.htm

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

Then why this line?

I said probably which doesn't mean they won't save you money and that's just a personal opinion, far from fact. Quite simply put the potential is certainly there but whether most will be able to take advantage by sticking with the same fixture for long enough is debatable. Again the real point was additional heat isn't a huge factor and if it is it's something that can be minimized.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by sphelps

I said probably which doesn't mean they won't save you money and that's just a personal opinion, far from fact. Quite simply put the potential is certainly there but whether most will be able to take advantage by sticking with the same fixture for long enough is debatable.

People tend to upgrade before the break-even point (4 years on average) and hence the "not" unless you use DIY leds or generic chinese $200 LEDs which, I hear, is damn good for the price.

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

People tend to upgrade before the break-even point (4 years on average) and hence the "not" unless you use DIY leds or generic chinese $200 LEDs which, I hear, is damn good for the price.

Yes it's a debatable topic, which is why Kiens translation was accurate because it goes both ways (just like Kien) and yours is inaccurate because it only goes one way to state LEDs will not save you many.