2 Radion G2 vs 3 Vega

[Bblinks]

Just want to see why you think radions are so much better. love to see a picture of your tank just for reference thats all.

[subman]

Here is a side by side the vegas are on the left g1 radions w/o tir lenses on the right.
the vegas are at %100 (no controller at the time) and the radions are at aprox %75 (still ramping up at the time)

I will add I ran the tank like this for a couple months and there was no noticable growth difference but the vegas ran at %100 all day while the Radions ran a custom profile.


****I'd also like to add my tank is much nicer and fuller now lol****

[denny_CC]

Originally Posted by subman

Here is a side by side the vegas are on the left g1 radions w/o tir lenses on the right.
the vegas are at %100 (no controller at the time) and the radions are at aprox %75 (still ramping up at the time)

I will add I ran the tank like this for a couple months and there was no noticable growth difference but the vegas ran at %100 all day while the Radions ran a custom profile.


****I'd also like to add my tank is much nicer and fuller now lol****

radions are noticeably brighter

radion g1 has better spread than ai sol

they do not need a controller------ edit*** (to run multiple lights)

bluetooth to wirelss eco tech products

touch sensor buttons( should be lcd but what ever ...)

slim profile

clean hanging kit

2 led pucks


thats just to name a few of the bonouses of g1 radions over sols, there are alot more especially if we start talking g2 over the g1 and pros over the g2

well see if ai comes out with anything new and whether or not they go par with ghl or ecotech but right now its not there in the vega.

[cuz]

Originally Posted by denny@conceptaquatics

radions are noticeably brighter

radion g1 has better spread than ai sol

they do not need a controller------ edit*** (to run multiple lights)

bluetooth to wirelss eco tech products

touch sensor buttons( should be lcd but what ever ...)

slim profile

clean hanging kit

2 led pucks


thats just to name a few of the bonouses of g1 radions over sols, there are alot more especially if we start talking g2 over the g1 and pros over the g2

well see if ai comes out with anything new and whether or not they go par with ghl or ecotech but right now its not there in the vega.

most of the differences stated are bells and whistles.
No offence Denny but it is hard to compare apples to apples over a lps/ zoanthid tank. I'm happy with my SOL's but have only compared them myself to 6 250w MH used previously.
The radions are nice to look at in the box on the shelf but not worth the extra $$'s IMO. I seen them over a very healthy sps tank and the parts of the colony directly under the fixture were night and day different looking as to the part that was slightly off center.
just my two cents based only off what I've seen myself.

[Bblinks]

Hey Denny and Subman, Thanks for the pictures!

Subman, your comparison pictures does show a brighter and more intense light from the radions but that being said we don't know what or how the corals would react under the 2 different lighting. Are you going to keep the tank lit like this for a bit and see how corals react to it? I am more interested in sps growth and coloration then anything as I am more of a sps guy and some lps. I would love to see how 2 exact same coral(sps) would turn out under the 2 different led lights. If you are willing, I can supply some frags...

Denny, you guys have most of the leds in stock and on display. Take in account of price, quailty, and functionailty, which one of the 5 would you go with on your own tank, AI Vega, Radion G2, Mitras, reefbrite, vertex 360? And why?

Thanks in advance for your reponse.

[Bblinks]

Btw, I am currently using AI sols, I can tell you I get great growth out of my sps. They are also so intense I usually bleach any lps that I don;t acclaim to it properly. I also get great colors from my sps but it does not reflect certain colors from those sols since they are heavy in the blue spectrum. I would move corals between my ai tank and my t5 frag tank. Some colors just pop under the T5's which I just don;t see it in the maintank, not that they are present but just not reflected properly. IMO
Thinking about switching to either ai vegas or maybe profilux , but I have my reason for not wanting to go the profilux route.

[subman]

Originally Posted by Bblinks

Hey Denny and Subman, Thanks for the pictures!

Subman, your comparison pictures does show a brighter and more intense light from the radions but that being said we don't know what or how the corals would react under the 2 different lighting. Are you going to keep the tank lit like this for a bit and see how corals react to it? I am more interested in sps growth and coloration then anything as I am more of a sps guy and some lps. I would love to see how 2 exact same coral(sps) would turn out under the 2 different led lights. If you are willing, I can supply some frags...

Denny, you guys have most of the leds in stock and on display. Take in account of price, quailty, and functionailty, which one of the 5 would you go with on your own tank, AI Vega, Radion G2, Mitras, reefbrite, vertex 360? And why?

Thanks in advance for your reponse.

I have since sold my Vegas and Radions. Over the couple months I had them running I didn't notice any growth difference but not really a scientific experiment as they were running different profiles and I didn't have the same coral under each

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by cuz

most of the differences stated are bells and whistles.
No offence Denny but it is hard to compare apples to apples over a lps/ zoanthid tank..

its fact i have a lot of zoos that probably wouldnt do well in a sps sysyem but fact is they need the same light requirements in order to get the best out of them,sps need light so do zoanthids , in fact most zoas and palys grow faster and brighter with more intense lighting same as sps, and colors are also dependant on water quality and lighting same as sps.

whether or not they grow sps has been proven thread over thread over thread on rc and other forumns so i doubt i need to prove that.

unfortunately im not sps dominated so i can only speak from a mixed reef point of view

plus im not saying the sols dont work i never did im saying they arnt comparable to the radions which is also fact if you compare 1 radion to 1 ai sol, and if were comparing then we look at all aspects including the bells and whistles.

my 2 cents will most likely vary from someone elses 2 cents.

[Bblinks]

Originally Posted by reefwars

its fact i have a lot of zoos that probably wouldnt do well in a sps sysyem but fact is they need the same light requirements in order to get the best out of them,sps need light so do zoanthids , in fact most zoas and palys grow faster and brighter with more intense lighting same as sps, and colors are also dependant on water quality and lighting same as sps.

whether or not they grow sps has been proven thread over thread over thread on rc and other forumns so i doubt i need to prove that.

unfortunately im not sps dominated so i can only speak from a mixed reef point of view

plus im not saying the sols dont work i never did im saying they arnt comparable to the radions which is also fact if you compare 1 radion to 1 ai sol, and if were comparing then we look at all aspects including the bells and whistles.

my 2 cents will most likely vary from someone elses 2 cents.

Reef wars, what you running for lights right now? Can you post a picture of your tank if you don't mind. I would love to see it. I know it's not a Sps system but mine isn't all Sps either. I got a good collection of zoas and acans along with a lot of other corals.
IMO my ai sols are very comparable to a radion, not only they are on par with the abilty to grow any kind of coral it also have the controls that radion offers. well it dont have touch control but what eves. i can live without those. I have also dealt with ai's customer service. Let me tell you it was a pleasure. No hassle no bs, you have a problem they will solve it. I have heard countless issues with radions and horror stories about getting issues resolved. I know I would be ****ed paying double the money for the radion unit and get left out in the cold when any problem arises.
Anyways thats is my 2 cents.

[viperfish]

Originally Posted by denny@conceptaquatics

radions are noticeably brighter

radion g1 has better spread than ai sol

they do not need a controller------ edit*** (to run multiple lights)

bluetooth to wirelss eco tech products

touch sensor buttons( should be lcd but what ever ...)

slim profile

clean hanging kit

2 led pucks


thats just to name a few of the bonouses of g1 radions over sols, there are alot more especially if we start talking g2 over the g1 and pros over the g2

well see if ai comes out with anything new and whether or not they go par with ghl or ecotech but right now its not there in the vega.

Vega has better penetration
Vega offers more control
Vega has wireless control
Slim Profile
Cleaner hanging kit
4 LED pucks (I don't know what this has to do with anything?)
Pucks can be upgraded easily (No need to buy a new fixture)

The pics mean nothing, brighter just means more lumens, not PAR.