New list of reef fish

[fishoholic]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

Well, yes, but you'd have to be talking SUPER SMALL FISH and INVERTS. Think Trimma gobies and sexy shrimp small. And let's face it, what doesn't eat those?

For the record, I've kept them with all manner of Lystmata shrimps and blennies without issue (6-8" individual).

I really wish this fish wasn't so overlooked due to its status as a "grouper". It's a fantastic reef fish.

They are a cool fish but they are shy and they hide a lot of the time. Also a 65g is to small of a tank for a marine betta

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by fishoholic

They are a cool fish but they are shy and they hide a lot of the time. Also a 65g is to small of a tank for a marine betta

Varies from fish to fish. I've had both shy guys and bar stars (well, the marine betta equivalents), lol.

Originally Posted by ruslicus

Hey Albert, you attracted my attention for wrasses group. How many you think would be suitable for 65g tank?
So thinking of:
1. Yellowtail Damsel (have it)
2. Firefish (have it)
3. Group of wrasses
4. Blenny more likely Tailspot as it is barebottom
5. Pair of Tomato clowns
6. Show fish type of tang or other.

Trio? Foursome? Quintet? Whatever's within your means and availability. They have a pretty marginal impact on bioload. Keep in mind that it is one male per species to each tank though.

The rest of your list looks fine.

Originally Posted by fishoholic

A 65g is way to small for any tang or rabbitfish (even a small one) so scrap that idea.

I do not agree with this statement. Kole tangs and doliatus rabbits are perfectly content in a 65 as long as you don't have a rock wall taking up all the space.

[ruslicus]

Do I have to insert the whole group together or I can do it in stages?

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by ruslicus

Do I have to insert the whole group together or I can do it in stages?

Try to do it all at once. No squabbling over pecking order.

[reefwars]

honestly russ you want a nice tank so id scrap the common fish idea like the tomato clown and fire fish and damsel, since you have a rimless tank i doubt your going to cover it so avoid jumpers if you can.

sounds like you want movement

i love the ember blenny suggestion, love the kole tang suggestion,id do a designer pair of clowns maybe some snowflakes and i would do a anthias maybe a bartlett( i love these guys )



i always pick fish for jobs so a mandarin/scooter is a must have for me , same with a wrasse in which case i love leopards and a black leopard would fit your tank fine provided you can find a place for him to sleep, they are also tricky to get eating but much easier then other leopards are.

cheers

denny

[ruslicus]

Originally Posted by reefwars

honestly russ you want a nice tank so id scrap the common fish idea like the tomato clown and fire fish and damsel, since you have a rimless tank i doubt your going to cover it so avoid jumpers if you can.

sounds like you want movement

i love the ember blenny suggestion, love the kole tang suggestion,id do a designer pair of clowns maybe some snowflakes and i would do a anthias maybe a bartlett( i love these guys )



i always pick fish for jobs so a mandarin/scooter is a must have for me , same with a wrasse in which case i love leopards and a black leopard would fit your tank fine provided you can find a place for him to sleep, they are also tricky to get eating but much easier then other leopards are.

cheers

denny

Denny does ember blenny require sand? as I have barebottom.

So my list now is:

1. Damsel and Firefish is already in tank so no way I will get them out, just if I decide to tear it down.
2. Ember or Tail spot Blenny. I like ember blenny but have to check on sand bed.
3. A group of anthias (like bartlets) or McCosker's Flasher Wrasse. I like very much Lineatus Fairy Wrasse as per Albert, but I am affraid will not find and will cost me a fortune.
4. Will look into nice pair of clowns. I would be looking into the clowns that will host anemonies
5. As a show fish I will say Kole Tang for now.

Denny would yo be able to find me these fishes stage by stage?

[ruslicus]

Originally Posted by ruslicus

Denny does ember blenny require sand? as I have barebottom.

So my list now is:

1. Damsel and Firefish is already in tank so no way I will get them out, just if I decide to tear it down.
2. Ember or Tail spot Blenny. I like ember blenny but have to check on sand bed.
3. A group of anthias (like bartlets) or McCosker's Flasher Wrasse. I like very much Lineatus Fairy Wrasse as per Albert, but I am affraid will not find and will cost me a fortune.
4. Will look into nice pair of clowns. I would be looking into the clowns that will host anemonies
5. As a show fish I will say Kole Tang for now.

Denny would yo be able to find me these fishes stage by stage?

So decided to go for Watanabei Angelfish (if I can find the small male) or Kole Tang as a show fish. in rest stay the same!

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by ruslicus

So decided to go for Watanabei Angelfish (if I can find the small male) or Kole Tang as a show fish. in rest stay the same!

No such thing as a small male :P

They're all born females. Dominant fish turn into males.

[naesco]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

Varies from fish to fish. I've had both shy guys and bar stars (well, the marine betta equivalents), lol.



Trio? Foursome? Quintet? Whatever's within your means and availability. They have a pretty marginal impact on bioload. Keep in mind that it is one male per species to each tank though.

The rest of your list looks fine.



I do not agree with this statement. Kole tangs and doliatus rabbits are perfectly content in a 65 as long as you don't have a rock wall taking up all the space.

The rabbit needs a minimum 100 gallon. see comment

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2008-12/fish/index.php

The powder blue is completely out of the question. Kole tangs kinda hang around rather than swim and are doable in a smaller tank but there are tons of smaller fish more suitable for your tank.
With wrasse you need a top for your tank or they will jump

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by naesco

The rabbit needs a minimum 100 gallon. see comment

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2008-12/fish/index.php

The powder blue is completely out of the question. Kole tangs kinda hang around rather than swim and are doable in a smaller tank but there are tons of smaller fish more suitable for your tank.
With wrasse you need a top for your tank or they will jump

Why is that author's generalized commentary more valid than my observation?