Looking for GHL reviews from users...

sphelps · #1 12-03-2012, 03:34 PM

While I've had the occasional discretion with GHL support staff I have to admit the company is very customer focused, more so than most. The products are also rock solid and only released when they are ready. There was a reason this light was in production for so long and obviously things changed during this time, don't think you can hold that against them. Other companies have different motivations, get working models out the door and replace them each year with new versions and make promises regarding upgrade kits but don't release them until well after new models are in stores, there are obvious reasons for this but it's certainly not customer focused. The Mitras has been well thought out, while other companies will scramble to get new models out to compete GHL will likely focus on improving software and firmware like they always have with Profilux. Even when Profilux was eventually to upgraded to 3, DIY upgrade kits for P2 users were made available at the same time. GHL products also typically hold value well, the prices don't drop dramatically shortly after release, I don't think a P3 cost much less now than it did a few years ago.

In terms of the Radion Pro, I have a hard time understanding the extra $300 for HV LEDs. Given the history I wouldn't expect that price to hold long. The price difference between the Radion Pro and Mitras isn't really that much either and for some tanks the Mitras is more cost efficient due to it's wider coverage.

sphelps · #2 12-03-2012, 04:01 PM

Also in terms of the software I'm not sure what the issues are, I think it's great but I'm use to GHL software from the Profilux I've had for several years. Might be a little learning curve for those unfamiliar, plus any real issues would be fixed by GHL in short time. Some beta testing to expected with new products. I can also tell you the GHL software offers way more control than Ecotech, I don't think Vegas even have software yet plus don't forget the GHL has on board control, can't think of any other contenders that have that.

Myka · #3 12-03-2012, 05:37 PM

Yeah, I have to agree with you that the Mitras probably won't be replaced as quickly as most of the others have, and I would definitely be counting on software upgrades that GHL has always been very good about doing. Maybe there will be some special holiday pricing so I feel better about this hobby sucking the guts out of my wallet. Sometimes I have to shake my head when I think of all the money I spend on my tank!

I'm definitely turned off the AI products, they are changing too much. I think they need to spend more time in production. I haven't been very impressed by tanks lit by these LEDs either.

I was thinking there must be more coming with the Radion Pro since $300 for a handful of UV lights just doesn't make sense, but maybe not? I know I'm not willing to pay $300 just for that. I know those particular LEDs are pricey, but come on now. I'm interested to see if there are other upgrades to the Pro model when it comes out. The reliability issues with the G1 kinda turn me off the Radion though...good customer service or not.

sphelps · #4 12-03-2012, 07:02 PM

The Pros will also have yellow LEDs but I didn't give credit for that.

Aqua-Digital · #5 12-03-2012, 09:43 PM

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http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...7#post20950667

Skimmerking · #6 12-03-2012, 11:45 PM

I honesty don't think that the price for the mitras is actually worth the bottom line is if they dropped the price a lot you would get more people buying the LEDs and that pretty much the truth on that. I can pretty much guarantee u could have everyone on canreef on LEDs if u drop the price to a normal price paying 800. Bucks for 1 light is kinda crazy and now u have the pro radion and now the mitras which is a lot of money but that is my opinion

Aqua-Digital · #7 12-03-2012, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Skimmer King

I honesty don't think that the price for the mitras is actually worth the bottom line is if they dropped the price a lot you would get more people buying the LEDs and that pretty much the truth on that. I can pretty much guarantee u could have everyone on canreef on LEDs if u drop the price to a normal price paying 800. Bucks for 1 light is kinda crazy and now u have the pro radion and now the mitras which is a lot of money but that is my opinion

Not going to get further involved in this thread but price point is important to cover - Unfortunately the cost will not be coming down, the Mitras especially took 2 years of development just to start, then you get into the patented parts that are used to provide the same effect you would with T5. then dont get me started on the linear dimming curve, then the up to 40" end user reported spread from one fixture etc etc.

Then there is the individually hand made side of things..............

intarsiabox · #8 12-04-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Myka

I'm definitely turned off the AI products, they are changing too much. I think they need to spend more time in production. I haven't been very impressed by tanks lit by these LEDs

I know, first they release the Sol's in 2007 and now Vega's five years later. That's crazy, electronics never change these days. They should be following ecotech's example.