Giving up on SPS!

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Titus99

I have a 26 gallon tank with 35 sps

My trick. Is a sump is a must and no zero nada. Softies

What's nada?

I just run a AC110 refugium at the back to keep my nitrate undetectable. My space doesn't permit anything more

[Zoaelite]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

What's nada?

I just run a AC110 refugium at the back to keep my nitrate undetectable. My space doesn't permit anything more

I think he means ZERO softies in the tank. Not talking about water parameters.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Zoaelite

I think he means ZERO softies in the tank. Not talking about water parameters.

Ah how can I say no to all those wonderful zoas!

[Zoaelite]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

Ah how can I say no to all those wonderful zoas!

Zoas won't be the ones causing you problems, its the xenia, colt... larger slimier softies that release alopathic toxins.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Zoaelite

Zoas won't be the ones causing you problems, its the xenia, colt... larger slimier softies that release alopathic toxins.

Leathers also excrete that right?

And what about GSP?

I never gave my eyes towards colt and kenya since they are like biowar machines as far as I heard.

[Proteus]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

Leathers also excrete that right?

And what about GSP?

I never gave my eyes towards colt and kenya since they are like biowar machines as far as I heard.

And mushrooms. There terrible lol

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Titus99

And mushrooms. There terrible lol

Ah damn. I give up on SPS totally then! I will just stick with montis and birdnest. Need to try how pocci works. Acros are so boring (ok don't flame me )

[daniella3d]

really?? wow..I have tons of them in my tank with my SPS.

Is there any scientific study about SPS not being compatible with xenia, keny tree, zoanthids, mushrooms etc?? I have all these with my tons of SPS and none seem to bother. I don't even use carbon.

Originally Posted by Titus99

And mushrooms. There terrible lol

[ScubaSteve]

SPS can be done in a 20 gallon. I did it for many years. It's just more painful and variable. I'd argue that you could do a sump. Just build one in under the stand. Before you state otherwise I'll retort with: Trust me, you can. Sumps really do make a difference, especially with a good skimmer. I use a skimmer rated for 100 gallons on my 50 gallon tank.

Leathers are probably the worst for allelopathic warfare. GSP is't know for it, but it can and will overgrow SPS if not kept in check. I'd ditch the leathers if you have any. Running carbon can help cut down on this type of warfare and it tends to work better... you know... with a sump

I'm a chemical engineer. I nerd out over parameters and stuff like that. I love knowing the science about everything going on in my tank. I've found that even when parameters are stable in a new tank, all but the most hardy SPS will struggle until the tank is more mature. It's not science, it's ****ing black magic! Drives me nuts! For all purposes, the SPS should be OK if your water is stable but that isn't always the case. Hence the 6 month rule of thumb.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by ScubaSteve

SPS can be done in a 20 gallon. I did it for many years. It's just more painful and variable. I'd argue that you could do a sump. Just build one in under the stand. Before you state otherwise I'll retort with: Trust me, you can. Sumps really do make a difference, especially with a good skimmer. I use a skimmer rated for 100 gallons on my 50 gallon tank.

Leathers are probably the worst for allelopathic warfare. GSP is't know for it, but it can and will overgrow SPS if not kept in check. I'd ditch the leathers if you have any. Running carbon can help cut down on this type of warfare and it tends to work better... you know... with a sump

I'm a chemical engineer. I nerd out over parameters and stuff like that. I love knowing the science about everything going on in my tank. I've found that even when parameters are stable in a new tank, all but the most hardy SPS will struggle until the tank is more mature. It's not science, it's ****ing black magic! Drives me nuts! For all purposes, the SPS should be OK if your water is stable but that isn't always the case. Hence the 6 month rule of thumb.

I might be able to chip in a 6" high long sump but skimmer is totally out of question :P And I hate HOB skimmers. Nothing beats the performance of in-sump and good HOBs costs fortune!

I don't have any sort of swing in my tank (white magic perhaps ). I guess SPS are just not for me :P LPS FYI!