ICH!!!!!

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by daniella3d

Sure, but when my dog get flea I treat it, I don't leave it full of fleas and let it scratch itself to bloody spots.

Since the dog (or fish) cannot treat themselves it is our duty to do it.

I do not consider parasites to be anything like a cold or a virus. It is easy enough to treat for parasites and be done with it for good.

8 weeks of empty tank...kinda hard

And another 4-6weeks of quarantine when adding new fishes....harder

[Pansy-Paws]

Well said daniella3d ...

mrhasan, if it's any consolation, we still enjoy our fish when they are in quarantine ... it's even easier to study them because there is little aquascaping.

One of my favourite savings for marine aquariums, "good stuff happens slow, bad stuff happens fast".

[mrhasan]

Yah I guess I will have to set up a quarantine tank and transfer the fishes over there and leave the tank sit for 8 weeks. In the mean time, I can add corals to the tank right?

[Enigma]

What condition are the fish in right now? How are things progressing? Have you started with garlic? What else do you have in he tank (corals and inverts)?

[Doug]

Beautiful tank Daniella

[Seth81]

I am going through a battle of ICH as well. Mine all started with a blue hippo tang that I did not quarantine when I got him. He was fine for a week or so until he jumped out of the tank while I was trying to rescue him from the overflow. I did rescue him from the floor and he was fine for a day, then ICH took hold of him. My wife and I tried to catch him for at least two hours but couldn't catch him for the life of us. Two days later I noticed ICH on 3 other fish. I have already been soaking mysis and flakes in Kent Garlic and running a UV sterilizer (at proper flow rate).

I have corals and cleaner shrimp so unwilling to do tank wide hypo or copper.

So I went to the LFS and the guy there recommended this Herbatana stuff. It's all natural and reef safe. That was 8 days ago and the ICH hasn't spread past the fish that already had it. But the fish that did have it before are getting worse. I lost the blue Hippo tang yesterday, and I'm sure I'll lose the Flame angel today or tomorrow.

From now on I will QT everything with coppermine. As for what to do now... well I guess just hope UV + Garlic and Herbatana minimizes losses. I would consider moving my coral and shrimp to a seperate tank while I do hypo, but not sure what hypos effect is on my 210 lbs of live rock

[daniella3d]

The liverock and biofilter survive very well in hyposalinity but all pods will die, including aiptasia (good thing), feather duster, sea stars etc...they will all die.

It is best to treat in a QT and put a few pieces of liverock in there. The bacterias survive just fine and do their job in hyposalinity, so no worry about a cycle. Of course a skimmer will not work, so a small filter hang on tank like a magnum is usefull, especially with the micron filter to help catch those nasty parasites in the water.

This is why QT is so important because it may be a hassle to do a proper quarantine but it is FAR more of a hassle to have to treat fish once they are in the main tank full of rock and infected and suffering and dying. Having to deal with an infected tank is no better as each bout of stress can bring on a full level infection.

YOu got ich and it killed a few of your fish...you can imagine what velvet would do. All your fish would probably be dead, even if you treated them. It is that fast.

REally sad about your fish.

Originally Posted by Seth81

I am going through a battle of ICH as well. Mine all started with a blue hippo tang that I did not quarantine when I got him. He was fine for a week or so until he jumped out of the tank while I was trying to rescue him from the overflow. I did rescue him from the floor and he was fine for a day, then ICH took hold of him. My wife and I tried to catch him for at least two hours but couldn't catch him for the life of us. Two days later I noticed ICH on 3 other fish. I have already been soaking mysis and flakes in Kent Garlic and running a UV sterilizer (at proper flow rate).

I have corals and cleaner shrimp so unwilling to do tank wide hypo or copper.

So I went to the LFS and the guy there recommended this Herbatana stuff. It's all natural and reef safe. That was 8 days ago and the ICH hasn't spread past the fish that already had it. But the fish that did have it before are getting worse. I lost the blue Hippo tang yesterday, and I'm sure I'll lose the Flame angel today or tomorrow.

From now on I will QT everything with coppermine. As for what to do now... well I guess just hope UV + Garlic and Herbatana minimizes losses. I would consider moving my coral and shrimp to a seperate tank while I do hypo, but not sure what hypos effect is on my 210 lbs of live rock

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Enigma

What condition are the fish in right now? How are things progressing? Have you started with garlic? What else do you have in he tank (corals and inverts)?

I got a clown, firefish, sixline wrasse, cleaner shrimp, cuc, torch coral, some mushrooms and a really big feather duster. My sixline got ich only and it seems to be a little better today (the ich from the body disappeared a bit).

I started garlic 2 days back but it turned my water cloudy so I am just feeding them garlic enhanced flake now. Everyone is eating like crazy.

[mrhasan]

I was going through this article:
http://www.liveaquaria.com/general/g...ral_pagesid=78

and this line caught my attention:

"Cryptocaryon is a fully ciliated protozoan that is present in all saltwater environments"

Since this is an article in liveaquaria, I believe it is correct to some extent (atleast approved by Dr. Foster and Smith).

Comments?

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

Comments?

I'm thinking they mean natural environments?