Fragalot!

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Originally Posted by Coasting

Burc has mentioned he has 4 employees that pack the orders for him and deal with other stuff.

I'm happy with all my fragalot frags.

I have been to his place numerous times and all I have ever seen is Burc. He has a small operation with not many tanks.

Maybe he gets some friends and family to help bag large orders (or highers the kid down the road), but there is no way he has full time employees.

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by Hydrologist

I have been to his place numerous times and all I have ever seen is Burc. He has a small operation with not many tanks.

Maybe he gets some friends and family to help bag large orders (or highers the kid down the road), but there is no way he has full time employees.

ah ok that could make sense, i know when i called last i got the feeling like it could have been a son or something lol


coral master is def a great guy to deal with hes on top of my list for sure but does only sps if he went into zoos and other lps more often i think he could be th best in the country, over all theres not a lot of online business to choose from.

even the stores here in calgary do not offer $10/frags , if they do its common stuff or bland so its priced low to sell.


like i said im not the biggest fan of burke in the world but ive gotten better service now then i did years ago. ill admit business is not burcs strongpoint ...but then again most lfs owners are hobbysts and not salesman

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Originally Posted by reefwars

ah ok that could make sense, i know when i called last i got the feeling like it could have been a son or something lol


coral master is def a great guy to deal with hes on top of my list for sure but does only sps if he went into zoos and other lps more often i think he could be th best in the country, over all theres not a lot of online business to choose from.

even the stores here in calgary do not offer $10/frags , if they do its common stuff or bland so its priced low to sell.


like i said im not the biggest fan of burke in the world but ive gotten better service now then i did years ago. ill admit business is not burcs strongpoint ...but then again most lfs owners are hobbysts and not salesman

I hear ya there. There is not a lot of places that have Zoas and other LPS. I think this void in the market will be filled very soon. I have noticed a number of small farmers in the GTA that have been picking up the slack for these types of Coral.

Dave

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Originally Posted by Hydrologist

I hear ya there. There is not a lot of places that have Zoas and other LPS. I think this void in the market will be filled very soon. I have noticed a number of small farmers in the GTA that have been picking up the slack for these types of Coral.

Dave

ive been trying my best to do the same for the folks here in calgary but the small amount of frags i make doesnt cut it and i get cleaned out reguarily, i talk to the lfs here in the city about making smaller frags....none are interested , im hoping that will change soon

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Originally Posted by reefwars

ive been trying my best to do the same for the folks here in calgary but the small amount of frags i make doesnt cut it and i get cleaned out reguarily, i talk to the lfs here in the city about making smaller frags....none are interested , im hoping that will change soon

Too bad for them and there customers. I honestly think that mentality will start to change in the next few years.

ON the plus side you are able to make back some money and purchase more beautiful corals

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by Hydrologist

Too bad for them and there customers. I honestly think that mentality will start to change in the next few years.

ON the plus side you are able to make back some money and purchase more beautiful corals

it will for sure, summer is also the downside.... alot of these business do freswater and koi so summer they kinda forget about saltys:P



your right ,absolutely it does, i do get the priviledge of ordering with the lfs too , so even if they dont order the things i need or want i order them myself through them, even then from the wholesalers/divers i still dont get what i ordered lol

from my understanding they are usually happy to let anyone order as the more they order reguarily the better choices they will get come next order.....seems all the larger stores have first choice for corals that come into the country as they can afford to bring in on average 100+ corals


when it comes to zoos most lfs tell me its too hit or miss on what they order so unless they get too see pics( not everyone sends them pics) they are afraid of getting stuck with bland common colors. zoos aare hard to identify by name and the names and flaavors change too often.

i imagine its close to the same for sps as well right??

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Originally Posted by reefwars

it will for sure, summer is also the downside.... alot of these business do freswater and koi so summer they kinda forget about saltys:P



your right ,absolutely it does, i do get the priviledge of ordering with the lfs too , so even if they dont order the things i need or want i order them myself through them, even then from the wholesalers/divers i still dont get what i ordered lol

from my understanding they are usually happy to let anyone order as the more they order reguarily the better choices they will get come next order.....seems all the larger stores have first choice for corals that come into the country as they can afford to bring in on average 100+ corals


when it comes to zoos most lfs tell me its too hit or miss on what they order so unless they get too see pics( not everyone sends them pics) they are afraid of getting stuck with bland common colors. zoos aare hard to identify by name and the names and flaavors change too often.

i imagine its close to the same for sps as well right??

Yup, for the most part. Even with SPS it's very tough to know exactly what you are going to get from the supplier. I do however think it is a little easier with SPS since you can order the exact species and colour (although, the colours are not always what they seem, by the time you get them)...shipping stresses, lighting issues, time spent at the packing facilities...etc.

Name brand SPS corals are not going to be purchased overseas from the supplier..... for the most part. BUT, it can happen and it does happen once in a while (from my experience). Most stores I have talked with also request lots of photos from the suppliers, but as you said they don't always get them. Another issue I have noticed (similar to what you touched on with Zoos) is that stores normally have to bring in X amount of coral in order to get X amount of AAA grade coral. This ratio can be lowered if the stores increase there quantity or the frequency in which they order.

at least in my experience....

Dave