Ca/Alk/Mag Mess . . . How to fix?

[Enigma]

Originally Posted by gregzz4

Here's Elos' response ...

Thanks for using our products and contacting us. The angle on the illustrated pamphlet is ok but i know what you are describing that it is possible to "chop the drops", if you hold at an angle. The bottles used in the Elos kits are metered drops so it is best to get close to vertical or vertical for best results. Hope this helps and let me know if you have any other questions.
　
　
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There's your vindication right there. I like how she won't say that the diagrams are wrong, but she instructed you to keep them as verticle as possible.

Originally Posted by gregzz4

That's something I've not experienced yet
Was your new water mixed well and the same temp etc etc ??

Did you do anything else at the same time ?

I'm becoming so anal that I won't do 2 things at the same time anymore

I did nothing else at the same time. If they were ticked off yesterday, they're super ticked tonight! They opened during the day just fine, so hopefully this will pass.

I picked up Aquavitro Calicification tonight. It claims that one of the types of calcium in it (gluconate-complexed calcium) prevents calcium precipitation and alkalinity depletion. Oh, and it claims it won't effect pH. We'll see. No snow storm in my tank, so hopefully that's a good sign.

I split the difference between the lower and upper recommended dosages, which should raise it by about 20 ppm. I showed remarkable restraint. And, I purchased the little bottle: so I'd feel as if I had to make it last. I really wanted the big one.

[gregzz4]

Originally Posted by Enigma

I did nothing else at the same time. If they were ticked off yesterday, they're super ticked tonight! They opened during the day just fine, so hopefully this will pass.

Are you saying they're closed right now ??

Maybe someone is crawling on them ...

Wow, we sure butchered your post
Edit: err, meant to say thread

[Enigma]

Originally Posted by gregzz4

Are you saying they're closed right now ??

Maybe someone is crawling on them ...

Wow, we sure butchered your post

The fact that they're closed could be totally relevant to the subject matter. They're calcium sucking corals in a system with very limited calcium. Closed . . . More like locked up tight.

[Enigma]

I also picked up Aquavitro 8.4, in the event Alk crashes (this will raise pH and Alk). According to the Calcificatin bottle, 8.4 can be dosed within minutes of calcification. Curious. I'd like to try it to see what happens, but that is kind of scary.

[jorjef]

You guys are all loonie!! Change salt and hope for the best.

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by jorjef

You guys are all loonie!!.

lol, I agree! This whole thing is making my head spin

[gregzz4]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

lol, I agree! This whole thing is making my head spin

You too huh ?
Imagine how I've felt these last 2 months, nevermind how much money I've wasted on kits

[gregzz4]

Originally Posted by jorjef

You guys are all loonie!! Change salt and hope for the best.

I agree now but ...

When I was getting a reading from my tank of 520 Ca I couldn't do a WC when the NSW was nearly the same

Now do you see why I am so into this thread ?

[jorjef]

Originally Posted by gregzz4

I agree now but ...

When I was getting a reading from my tank of 520 Ca I couldn't do a WC when the NSW was nearly the same

Now do you see why I am so into this thread ?

You say you don't want to spend the extra on a quality salt and rather go cuckoo trying to solve the balance. Well you might think differently when your tank is packed with corals and issues start popping up.. To pay an extra 20,30,40 bucks for a pail of salt is the price of one measly coral. But you risk loosing many more than one with salt problems

IO is fine for fish only tanks but not for reef IMO.

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by jorjef

IO is fine for fish only tanks but not for reef IMO.

My LFS won't even sell me IO In all fairness, I think if you've got a good handle on dosing or (successfully) run a Ca reactor, IO is fine. I couldn't use it without upping values for new water, but lots of people do raise values and do all this mucking around. For me, peace of mind is worth the 6 bucks more a week I pay for my salt..but like you said, for me to replace my SPS collection would cost me 10k, so I'm just not interested in skimping on salt.