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|   i was in on the first contest and here's my 2 pennies. total volume... does it include external overflows, sumps? make it known. imo no existing tanks... isn't the whole point of this to see a tank from startup to the end date? also levels the playing field. you could use these tanks if you want to empty and start anew. budget.. i wouldn't include glass (unless starfire.. add the difference), plumbing or stands in this.. just lights, skimmer,heater, doser pumps/ph's etc. and yes livestock too. again keep the playing field fair. all expenses should be shown. Use an online retailer or two ( any, maybe even an American one) for pricing. level playing field and all... just my thoughts.. i may be in.. its debatable. Sent from my galaxy S2 using tapatalk 
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|   anymore suggestions or ideas anyone while were in the creating stages???? 
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|   LOL damn. I'm nit gonna build a new tank haha. I'm out   
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|   goodtime to empty it out and start from scratch  
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|   Yeh I'm not tearing down. I like the idea of a fun contest for appeal. Knowing what I spent on equip seems like a contest of fortune. I understand listing equipment as there are some damn techy nanos, but don't feel it should sway into a comp. I would base it on appeal and growth and maybe crashes during My tanks been up for two months if that's not new enough I'll just have to spectate | 
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|   dude buy yourself a cheap 5g tank and have fun it doesnt need to be expensive it just has to sustian life for a certian period of time... im in on this one and will be building from ground up as usuall hehe.. here is an example of a nano that is cost effective but most likely wont win http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac3SVHpuPhw&feature=fvw or just for fun great for reefer meets  even more fun also great at reefer meets lol  
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|   bullsh*t..... i just spent the last 3hrs typin out a contest and when i went to post it it said my "token" was up?? now ive lost all i wrote and i have no ambition to spend another 3hrs writing it out again  maybe ill do it again but wont be tonight  
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|   [quote=reefwars;739957] "token" was up??  does this have somthin to do with the "devil". | 
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|   [quote=don.ald;739960] Quote: 
 i honestly think he had part to do with it lol anyways i will type it upagain and copy and paste it onto a fresh post, i do have it written down as a back up just didnt figure my post time can run out lol oh well ill get to it again:P:P 
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