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Old 08-23-2012, 06:15 PM
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One potential issue I'll point out which may or may not be relevant is the amount of the salt you mixed up. Although rare I've seen it cause similar issues before when small portions of large pail of salt is mixed for water changes, you can end up overdosing on something if the salt pail is poorly mixed or something has separated. IMO if you're unable to mix large portions of a pail at once then you should use smaller packages.

I suppose that comes back to the good old rule "roll your buckets"
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Old 08-23-2012, 07:09 PM
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Sorry,I should have added this in my last post as its an important point. I always roll my new buckets of salt before I open it. I also go one step further. I take out all the salt and place it into four 3 gal buckets. I use my handy mixing spoon and stir up each bucket. While pouring the salt back in the original bucket I am stirring it with my spoon tyring to mix it as much as possible.

I have have used Reef Crystals for years and it has always mixed up clear for me. The BIG red flag on this salt is how cloudy it mixes up(The cloudyness does not go away).This is not normal. In all he years doing this I have never experience anything like it. I am using a ATI 6 bulb Powermodule. The light is 6" from the surface,tank is only 14" high and the light couldn't penetrate to the bottom.
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Old 08-24-2012, 02:44 AM
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There is no point talking about this if you don't have it analyzed and then confirm what you are saying or not. Only a real lab analysis will tell if it is the salt or something else.

for now everything read here is just pure speculation and could be a lot of reasons for the problem.

As for me, I won't stop using Reef crystal as I have very good result with it. If any batch of salt would mix cloudy I would definitly not use it and if I had such issue with my corals I would have the salt tested.

With Kent carbon, hundreds of people had bought and use the carbon and crashed their tank, but this seem to be a very isolated problem.


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Sorry,I should have added this in my last post as its an important point. I always roll my new buckets of salt before I open it. I also go one step further. I take out all the salt and place it into four 3 gal buckets. I use my handy mixing spoon and stir up each bucket. While pouring the salt back in the original bucket I am stirring it with my spoon tyring to mix it as much as possible.

I have have used Reef Crystals for years and it has always mixed up clear for me. The BIG red flag on this salt is how cloudy it mixes up(The cloudyness does not go away).This is not normal. In all he years doing this I have never experience anything like it. I am using a ATI 6 bulb Powermodule. The light is 6" from the surface,tank is only 14" high and the light couldn't penetrate to the bottom.
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Old 08-24-2012, 01:33 PM
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So sorry to hear that really sucks.

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IMO, the problem is that if the batch was bad, there should be thousands of people with the same problem.
The numbers of people with the problem are statistically insignificant when dealing with the size of a batch mix.
It's too easy for someone to blame a batch of salt and then others having problems jump on the band wagon and feel the salt is the cause of their problems also.
Can you find even a hundred people who have a problem that they are blaming this batch of salt on?
Not everyone who is in the hobby is part of an internet fish group. Just because there haven't been hundreds of reports doesn't mean hundreds haven't been affected. Working at AI I would say about 80% of our customers have nothing to do with internet fish boards and have no desire to join any either.
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I took that into account with the "hundred" figure.
How many stores are sending all this salt with this batch number back because all their customers are experiencing wipe outs?
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Old 08-24-2012, 02:21 PM
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I just opened a batch of Reef Crystals and no problems. I agree that it has to be something to do with the water change. Either way, it's good to know that if my water ever mixes up cloudy, I should scrap that salt. Sorry for the loss.
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I have never rolled my salt. weird and i have ben in the hobby since 2002
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I took that into account with the "hundred" figure.
How many stores are sending all this salt with this batch number back because all their customers are experiencing wipe outs?

is it not possible that its only a bucket or a very small amount of buckets that could have this??

why does the whole batch have to be tainted??

is it not possible the bucket could have been contaminated before salt was added??

or is it not possible there was an error in packaging??
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is it not possible that its only a bucket or a very small amount of buckets that could have this??

why does the whole batch have to be tainted??

is it not possible the bucket could have been contaminated before salt was added??

or is it not possible there was an error in packaging??
Based on today's production methods, there isn't much chance of just one or a few buckets having a problem, either before filling or while or after.
There is no way to say absolutely that it can't happen, just highly unlikely.
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yeah sure...just look how many have reported problems with Kent carbon, and I am 110% sure there are FAR MORE people using Reef Crystal than those that use Kent carbon.

It's a small world.

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So sorry to hear that really sucks.
Not everyone who is in the hobby is part of an internet fish group. Just because there haven't been hundreds of reports doesn't mean hundreds haven't been affected. Working at AI I would say about 80% of our customers have nothing to do with internet fish boards and have no desire to join any either.
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