Herbie Overflow Fail

[sphelps]

Yeap two completely separate drains are key although I've never seen it reduce flow but only create the annoying water echo type noise through the back up. It's interesting it had that effect with you.

[RuGlu6]

Thanks for sharing

[reefgirl189]

I did the same exact thing as you did. My sump is also in the basement. I eventually had to change it to a separate line to avoid that awful gurgling sound.

[gregzz4]

And to add something many will notice ...

If the drain plugs up downstream of the 'T', you have no emergency, so it's not really a Herbie, per se

Thanks for sharing and def run a second line

[Seth81]

Originally Posted by reefgirl189

I did the same exact thing as you did. My sump is also in the basement. I eventually had to change it to a separate line to avoid that awful gurgling sound.

Thanks for the reply, are you happy with the end result?

[Seth81]

Originally Posted by sphelps

Yeap two completely separate drains are key although I've never seen it reduce flow but only create the annoying water echo type noise through the back up. It's interesting it had that effect with you.

The reduction in flow I mentioned is becuase when the water is above the primary drain a true siphon isn't achieved becuase air is being drawn in from the secondary pipe. The other kinda crappy thing about this is becuase soo much air is being drawn in the water splashes like crazy in the sump! I've seen the water spalsh up 2-3 feet as air bubble makes its way to the sump!

[gregzz4]

Originally Posted by Seth81

The other kinda crappy thing about this is becuase soo much air is being drawn in ...

Not to worry
Once you run 2 separate lines and submerge the main line between 1 and 2 inches below the sump level, all will be good
Only thing that happens is a lot of air gurgling when you first fire it up as the air is purged, splashing water everywhere
I solved this by adding a splash guard around my drain lines

[Seth81]

Originally Posted by gregzz4

Not to worry
Once you run 2 separate lines and submerge the main line between 1 and 2 inches below the sump level, all will be good
Only thing that happens is a lot of air gurgling when you first fire it up as the air is purged, splashing water everywhere
I solved this by adding a splash guard around my drain lines

Yeah, currently my return in the sump is submerged about 6" in cylindrical acrylic tubes...yet still continuous 2- 3 foot geysers!

I'm sure you are right that once I run the seperate lines and eliminate the air intake my sump should settle down (after startup of course)