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07-10-2012, 08:17 AM
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If you are looking bubble coral, you'll want to stay at the medium to low end of the flow as they can be damaged by high direct flow. A Vortechs would be good as their flow is pretty diffuse but turbulent, so you won't have any strong direct flow at any one coral. And the fact they can be tuned down is a bonus. 
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07-10-2012, 08:20 AM
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Hmm that is what is making me lean towards the vortech, although the price of two 6045's is really appealing. Would the ability to control the flow and having just one for a while until I make a bit more money make that much of a difference over two non-adjustable ones where I would start with two?
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07-10-2012, 08:31 AM
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That's a good question ...
Cost wise ... You have to weigh the cost of those 6045's against the future costs of whatever you want to upgrade to Ya, it's a lot to pay now for the top end stuff, so, if you'd like to upgrade those 6045's later, look at what the resale value of those pumps is, and do some math ... I'm not trying to push the Vortechs on you, and I'm sure Steve isn't either, but they do hold their value  Adjustability wise ... I couldn't be happier with my pair of MP10wES Best money I ever spent on prop pumps I had a bit of a learning curve after I got them, but they are awesome, and I, after years of internal ugly powerheads, love the low profile I'm still waiting to see if any Tunze users are going to chime in as they have their benifits too, such as better placement / angles of flow / low noise ...
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07-10-2012, 08:33 AM
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No, its all good and I am honestly trying to be sold on one of these and all the input is great. Also another question! Would two mp10's be better than one MP40 for a 55g no sump?
And I really do appreciate all the help guys, as it is getting a lot off my mind and helping me set up a great tank.
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07-10-2012, 08:41 AM
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2 is better than 1
One left and one right Cross-flow with one master and one slave This will give you the back and forth flow your tank needs If it wasn't a 55g long, I may say different, but your long tank needs the flow of 2 pumps, regardless of what you buy If you get Vortechs, make sure you get ones that are wireless if you want the true Eco versions aka MP10wES is wireless and EcoSmart This will give you the full abilities to create all kinds of flow patterns ... love these pumps  If this was a 55g cube, you could get away with one MP40
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07-10-2012, 08:47 AM
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Keep in mind, either of these pump brands can be turned down to near nothing flow, so either is good for almost any tank setup, but ....
Nobody said you had to make your mind up right now If you don't want to spend the money on them right now, and just get your tank running, go buy some el-cheapo koralias and make your mind up later  http://www.jlaquatics.com/product/hy...50+GPH%29.html http://www.jlaquatics.com/product/hy...50+GPH%29.html
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07-10-2012, 02:59 PM
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there are pros and cons for both brands...... the vortechs move massive amounts of water and not just the flow moving out of the pump, the create a substantial undertow as well........the programming is also far better than the tunzes...the low in tank profile is sweet too......the downsides to them are, you are limited to where you can place them in the tank as they are not point-able and the the "dryside" will limit you as well....the "wetsides" are the weak point and will likely at some point need replacing..... tunzes move decent amounts of water, can be placed anywhere in the tank and the flow directed where you need it......when compared to the vortech, they are bulletproof.....the only downside to them is the in tank profile and the cord being in the tank.....
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260g mixed reef, 105g sump, water blaster 7000 return, Bubble King SM 300 skimmer, Aqua Controller Jr, 4 radions, 3 Tunze 6055s,1 tunze 6065, 2 Vortech MP40s, Vortech MP20, Tunze ATO, GHL SA2 doser, 2 TLF reactors (1 carbon, 1 rowa). http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=50034 . Tank Video here http://www.vimeo.com/2304609 and here http://www.vimeo.com/16591694
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07-10-2012, 08:50 AM
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Haha... Alright thanks everyone. I have a lot of thinking to do now as I am thinking two MP10 wireless might be the way to go. I am going to go for now but I will be back later to ask more questions I am sure. Thanks everyone.
 Sorry but after writing that I figured I would ask one last question, I am planning on just getting fish introduced first so do you think that it would be OK to get one mp10 and get another one later when I start adding coral? Thanks.
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07-10-2012, 08:58 AM
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Sure, it would be fine, or some el-cheapo pump, or a Tunze, or whatever
Or one nice pump of your choice, and one cheapo for now .... whatever ... Nobody said you had to decide on the pumps right now, did they ? Small, cheap pumps will do the job, as long as you don't mind the look of them They just don't create the random flow you'd like to have later in your reef ....
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07-11-2012, 01:52 PM
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Being that budget is a concern, I would recommend that you go with the Tunzes for now. Yes, the MP10s are nice (I have two of them in my 40B), but you don't need them. You can always upgrade down the road. You can count on spending $50 to $100 a gallon in setting up your tank.
At some point in time you may very well have another tank---quarantine, hospital, frag, etc---where the Tunzes would be useful if you replaced one (or both) with an MP10 down the road.
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