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Old 04-28-2012, 01:18 AM
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Bleach kills all ,and it wont make your kitchen stink.Im moving an i wanted to keep all my live rock so i bleached it all . i soaked it in a bucket with 1/4 bleach for a day and it came out squeaky clean . After a soak and a drying and another soak its perfect .
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I think the problem is what works for one person doesn't work for another. If you're looking for a panacea then absolutely killing your rock would be the only option to get rid of unwanted pests.

I think diligence and patience are the keys to whatever solution employed.
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Old 04-28-2012, 01:49 PM
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Bleach kills all ,and it wont make your kitchen stink.Im moving an i wanted to keep all my live rock so i bleached it all . i soaked it in a bucket with 1/4 bleach for a day and it came out squeaky clean . After a soak and a drying and another soak its perfect .
Yeah that does sound like a good option. Boiling it stinks like crap.

Anyone heard of the Freshwater dip option?
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Old 04-28-2012, 01:52 PM
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I fw dipped a rock with a fire worm in it, but it had coral too I haven't seen the fire worm in a few months and the corals fine
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Bryopsis was actually pretty easy for me to get rid of. First solve your phosphate problem, here is how:
Phosphate and the Reef Aquarium
by Holmes-Farley, Randy
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-09/rhf/index.php
Second, buy a few jugs of Kent Tech M and use them to keep your Magnesium up at 1500ppm until the bryopsis goes away. Thats what worked for me anyways.

I've also used natural control for aptasia and any majano that I've seen have peeled easily off of the hard surface that they were on. A friend of mine shared a trick with me that worked well for him. While cooking some live rock he shined a narrow light onto a spot in the tub where he was keeping his rock. Slowly all of the aptasia and/or majano migrated to the spot of light where he was then able to remove them.
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Bryopsis was actually pretty easy for me to get rid of. First solve your phosphate problem, here is how:
Phosphate and the Reef Aquarium
by Holmes-Farley, Randy
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-09/rhf/index.php
Second, buy a few jugs of Kent Tech M and use them to keep your Magnesium up at 1500ppm until the bryopsis goes away. Thats what worked for me anyways.

I've also used natural control for aptasia and any majano that I've seen have peeled easily off of the hard surface that they were on. A friend of mine shared a trick with me that worked well for him. While cooking some live rock he shined a narrow light onto a spot in the tub where he was keeping his rock. Slowly all of the aptasia and/or majano migrated to the spot of light where he was then able to remove them.

I have done all of the above and it's great for a couple months, but it always returns. The thing is, that I don't want to be dealing with these problems in a new tank. I feel like these are all temporary solutions to the problem. This is why I would like to boil or bleach. I would just like to see if there are any solutions out there that might make sure that they don't come back, other than those stated in the main post. I assure you I have spent countless hours researching this topic and have found no real methods to erradicate pests for sure without killing the rock.

Seems like there isn't much of a point to do anything but kill the rock entirely to ensure a problem free rock in the future. I just hate to see all of this nice coraline and beneficial bacteria die. A lot of my rock was imported from Jakarta and as soon as it was put into my tanks it flourished with amazing amounts of life and coraline on it. Will be sad to see it killed.
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Depending on what you use and what you've got on the rock, you can have success with many of the techniques mentioned.

But really, for all the time and money you spend on your tank and for what reefer rock costs, why screw around ?

It's the only way to be 100% sure.
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I have done all of the above and it's great for a couple months, but it always returns. The thing is, that I don't want to be dealing with these problems in a new tank. I feel like these are all temporary solutions to the problem. This is why I would like to boil or bleach. I would just like to see if there are any solutions out there that might make sure that they don't come back, other than those stated in the main post. I assure you I have spent countless hours researching this topic and have found no real methods to erradicate pests for sure without killing the rock.

Seems like there isn't much of a point to do anything but kill the rock entirely to ensure a problem free rock in the future. I just hate to see all of this nice coraline and beneficial bacteria die. A lot of my rock was imported from Jakarta and as soon as it was put into my tanks it flourished with amazing amounts of life and coraline on it. Will be sad to see it killed.
You could sterilize everything you have but unless you have the patients to quarantine for months at a time you'll just end up re-introducing things like bryopsis and aptasia again. What I've done for control has worked very well on my own tank since 2008/09. Whether you consider that to be a temporary solution or long term depends on how long you foresee yourself running the tank. At the moment I have approximately 2 square inches of bryopsis in my 240gal system. Which is not a big deal in my opinion. Yesterday I also picked another aptasia off of the Derasa clam that I bought a few months ago. So are the pests completely eliminated from my tank? No, but I'd hardly consider them to be problematic. Pocillopora has actually become one of my biggest 'pest' problems lately. Every piece of live rock in my display has Pocillopora growing on it now and its at war with some of my Acropora.
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I have heard of an acid bath to draw out all the phosphates in old rock? Anyone know about this?
I would go the bleach route. The "live" part will come back. You dont want to keep battling pests in a new tank!
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