Water changes

[ReefOcean]

Originally Posted by fishytime

What exactly are you dosing?....... here is a short list of some of the minerals and elements that are not being replenished when you dont do regular water changes....Strontium, Bicarbonate, Borate, Bromide, Chloride, Iodide, Sulfate, Potassium, Sodium ,Cobalt, Iron, Manganese, Molybdenum, Rubidium, Zinc

Brightwell reef building complex, brrightwell aquatics replenish and sometimes calcion at the moment

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by ReefOcean

Brightwell reef building complex, brrightwell aquatics replenish and sometimes calcion at the moment

and how much do they cost??

[ReefOcean]

Originally Posted by reefwars

and how much do they cost??

a lot

[Aquaria]

Originally Posted by ReefOcean

Brightwell reef building complex, brrightwell aquatics replenish and sometimes calcion at the moment

But how do u know at what rate those elements deplete? U could be building up elements dosing with out w/c. You need to do the w/c to bring the buildup down that's all anyone has said to you. Us pro w/c'ers believe that w/c balance what we cannot test for

[ReefOcean]

Originally Posted by Aquaria

But how do u know at what rate those elements deplete? U could be building up elements dosing with out w/c. You need to do the w/c to bring the buildup down that's all anyone has said to you. Us pro w/c'ers believe that w/c balance what we cannot test for

Is that relevant? Your alternative is arbitrarily adding them in through water/ salt mix that has an indeterminable amount.

[Aquaria]

Originally Posted by ReefOcean

Is that relevant? Your alternative is arbitrarily adding them in through water/ salt mix that has an indeterminable amount.

I already said u can search what's in your choice of salt (and its not just calc alk) so im not just "arbitrarily adding a indeterminable amount"

[ReefOcean]

Originally Posted by Aquaria

I already said u can search what's in your choice of salt (and its not just calc alk) so im not just "arbitrarily adding a indeterminable amount"

make a batch and test it. And I am not talking about that 50 dollar a bag Louis Vuitton or whatever designer salt. I am talking Kent or instant ocean, the garden variety stuff. The ingredients are not accurate. If they can't even get the cal or mag correct, how is those miniscual trace elements going to be at all correct.

But wait, you can't even test those miniscule trace elements accurately unless you are a hydro electric damn or a reservoir. So it is moot. Cal, mag, and the biggies you can, but aquarium unobtanium which helps in hypothetical this and that, good luck.... to put it as bluntly as possible. Your salt mix dosing is not better then my bottle dosing. End of story.

[Aquaria]

Originally Posted by ReefOcean

make a batch and test it. And I am not talking about that 50 dollar a bag Louis Vuitton or whatever designer salt. I am talking Kent or instant ocean, the garden variety stuff. The ingredients are not accurate. If they can't even get the cal or mag correct, how is those miniscual trace elements going to be at all correct.

But wait, you can't even test those miniscule trace elements accurately unless you are a hydro electric damn or a reservoir. So it is mute. You magic salt mix dosing is not better then my bottle dosing. End of story.

That's weird cuz I use io reef crystals and the few times iv tested my water it was fairly accurate give or take a little and i don't have to dose trace elements because there in the salt and my w/c helps reduce what buildups there may be from the elements that don't get used up as fast which is all we've been saying "end of story"

[ReefOcean]

Originally Posted by Aquaria

That's weird cuz I use io reef crystals and the few times iv tested my water it was fairly accurate give or take a little and i don't have to dose trace elements because there in the salt and my w/c helps reduce what buildups there may be from the elements that don't get used up as fast which is all we've been saying "end of story"

How come I knew you would say that. Good thing I can also bottle dose when my wonky salt mix screws me around..when i do water changes that is

I really don't get this circular argument you are presenting.

Whatever comes out of that salt bag, can come out of a bottle... Is it really that bad that it is possible to get away with suspended water changes? What exactly is your motivation here? You have ahve pretty much established that that dosing is dosing, if the salt mixture is correct.