Water changes

[ReefOcean]

Originally Posted by Delphinus

"Dilution is the solution to pollution"

I'll be the first to agree you don't have to overdo waterchanges but at the same time all you have to do is a water change and look at your tank before and after to convince you a waterchange does your tank some good. It's like opening a window and letting fresh air in.

Delphinus, don't get me wrong, I completely agree. I am not against water changes in fact I see some tanks that have a bioload which screams weekly water changes. In a system where bio-waste is kept at a low, water changes can become substantially less frequent to a a point where...cough...months are acceptable. Now people here can cling to minute trace elements all they want (most of whom don't even have a clue on what any of them do) and argue semantics but I think I made my case, even with the trolls coming in here to derail the thread.

Keep bioload low, run excessive mechanical filtration, dose and monitor. Simple.

And sorry Sphelps if I was being a douche, I felt douchery coming from you so I countered. No hard feelings.

[Aquaria]

Originally Posted by ReefOcean

Coming from the guy who blindly doses with whatever happens to be in the salt mix/ water....

Lol seriously haha you do know u can find out what's in any givin salt mix online right? I know what's going into my tank and my coral love it

[ReefOcean]

Originally Posted by Aquaria

Lol seriously haha you do know u can find out what's in any givin salt mix online right? I know what's going into my tank and my coral love it

Yes, I tested mag and cal after making a fresh batch when setting up my new tank. Not accurate in the least. When dosing, you can gauge the exact amount to dose or very close to it because it goes in separately...not mixed in with salt.

[ReefOcean]

Originally Posted by fishytime

What exactly are you dosing?....... here is a short list of some of the minerals and elements that are not being replenished when you dont do regular water changes....Strontium, Bicarbonate, Borate, Bromide, Chloride, Iodide, Sulfate, Potassium, Sodium ,Cobalt, Iron, Manganese, Molybdenum, Rubidium, Zinc

Brightwell reef building complex, brrightwell aquatics replenish and sometimes calcion at the moment

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by ReefOcean

Brightwell reef building complex, brrightwell aquatics replenish and sometimes calcion at the moment

and how much do they cost??

[ReefOcean]

Originally Posted by reefwars

and how much do they cost??

a lot

[Aquaria]

Originally Posted by ReefOcean

Brightwell reef building complex, brrightwell aquatics replenish and sometimes calcion at the moment

But how do u know at what rate those elements deplete? U could be building up elements dosing with out w/c. You need to do the w/c to bring the buildup down that's all anyone has said to you. Us pro w/c'ers believe that w/c balance what we cannot test for

[ReefOcean]

Originally Posted by Aquaria

But how do u know at what rate those elements deplete? U could be building up elements dosing with out w/c. You need to do the w/c to bring the buildup down that's all anyone has said to you. Us pro w/c'ers believe that w/c balance what we cannot test for

Is that relevant? Your alternative is arbitrarily adding them in through water/ salt mix that has an indeterminable amount.

[Aquaria]

Originally Posted by ReefOcean

Is that relevant? Your alternative is arbitrarily adding them in through water/ salt mix that has an indeterminable amount.

I already said u can search what's in your choice of salt (and its not just calc alk) so im not just "arbitrarily adding a indeterminable amount"

[ReefOcean]

Originally Posted by Aquaria

I already said u can search what's in your choice of salt (and its not just calc alk) so im not just "arbitrarily adding a indeterminable amount"

make a batch and test it. And I am not talking about that 50 dollar a bag Louis Vuitton or whatever designer salt. I am talking Kent or instant ocean, the garden variety stuff. The ingredients are not accurate. If they can't even get the cal or mag correct, how is those miniscual trace elements going to be at all correct.

But wait, you can't even test those miniscule trace elements accurately unless you are a hydro electric damn or a reservoir. So it is moot. Cal, mag, and the biggies you can, but aquarium unobtanium which helps in hypothetical this and that, good luck.... to put it as bluntly as possible. Your salt mix dosing is not better then my bottle dosing. End of story.