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Old 03-02-2012, 03:39 AM
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You asked me how do minimalize/deal with it..so I answered. Obviously, you are the type of hobbyist who prefers to "preach" and "offer" (I use that term loosely) advice. Not really a discussing and debating kind of guy are ya
How dare you post this comment about sphelps a respected member of this forum who offers freely advice to newbies like you.

You chose to get into this hobby and you have an obligation to provide the optimum environment for your fish inverts and coral you keep.

Get out of the hobby if you are too lazy to do water changes or give your fish and coral a fresh clean environment instead of a salty slough.

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How dare you post this comment about a respected member of this forum who offers freely advice to newbies like you.

You chose to get into this hobby and you have an obligation to provide the optimum environment for your fish inverts and coral you keep.

Get out of the hobby if you are too lazy to do water changes or give your fish and coral a fresh clean environment instead of a salty slough.
Noob? I have been doing this for almost 8 years. I only dare because he wont put out. He wants to trivialize this thread because it goes against his doctrine. The same could be said 3 years ago about people "killing" their coral off by using LED or T5. Thise people didnt know what they were doing! how dare they use something other than MH!!!!.. Now those 2 lighting methods are completely acceptable.

I am not talking about sticking fish into toxic sludge. I am talking about controlling contaminants, limiting bioload and dosing properly to suspend water changes and only do them occasionally. There is nothing put forward to suggest that the fish are suffering since parameters are monitored and the system is regulated.....

My god. ***Rolls eyes like 5000 times.
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Noob? I have been doing this for almost 8 years. I only dare because he wont put out. He wants to trivialize this thread because it goes against his doctrine. The same could be said 3 years ago about people "killing" their coral off by using LED or T5. Thise people didnt know what they were doing! how dare they use something other than MH!!!!.. Now those 2 lighting methods are completely acceptable.

I am not talking about sticking fish into toxic sludge. I am talking about controlling contaminants, limiting bioload and dosing properly to suspend water changes and only do them occasionally. There is nothing put forward to sugg. est that the fish are suffering since parameters are monitored and the system is regulated.....

My god. ***Rolls eyes like 5000 times.
8 years. You act like a teenager with an attitude. You should be ashamed of yourself. Show some respect please.
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Old 03-02-2012, 03:50 AM
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LETS GET READY TO RUMMMMMMMMMMMBLE.

fyi i change my water.... add salt too
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8 years. You act like a teenager with an attitude. You should be ashamed of yourself. Show some respect please.
Have something viable to add? other than name calling and condescending ridicule?

EDIT: BTW, you are one to talk. You show some respect.
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Yes I do have something to add.

You owe Mr. Phelps an apology
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Yes I do have something to add.

You owe Mr. Phelps and apology

For what? He ridiculed me too . You need to be a little bit more consistant with your tantrums.
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Old 03-02-2012, 04:05 AM
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Reefocean, that may be true,
But I agree with him,
Not you
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I am talking about controlling contaminants, limiting bioload and dosing properly to suspend water changes and only do them occasionally.



What exactly are you dosing?....... here is a short list of some of the minerals and elements that are not being replenished when you dont do regular water changes....Strontium, Bicarbonate, Borate, Bromide, Chloride, Iodide, Sulfate, Potassium, Sodium ,Cobalt, Iron, Manganese, Molybdenum, Rubidium, Zinc
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