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Old 03-01-2012, 04:48 PM
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Why would anyone NOT do regular water changes??
Ohhh the humanity! how long could you breathe the same air if you were trapped in a box?
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I stoped for a while but found with a 45 gallon every two weeks I had less worry and less dosing. It's a hour of my time. Well worth the reward
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I change around 40 gal every 2 weeks in my tank - overkill probably but it's easy maintaince and I feel is worth it

I have a tee hooked up to my closed loop pump so I run a hose outside and open the valve- watch tv for 5-8 min shut valve and plug in a mag 9 which is on my 55 gal mixing bucket watch more tv unplug pump and done
I made it simple so it wasn't a hassle to do so I would actually do it
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Ohhh the humanity! how long could you breathe the same air if you were trapped in a box?


If there is biological reactions inside that box that are transforming carbon dioxide back to oxygen with high efficiency you could be stuck in there for an extended period of time.
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:20 PM
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If there is biological reactions inside that box that are transforming carbon dioxide back to oxygen with high efficiency you could be stuck in there for an extended period of time.
There are always bio-products to such reactions.
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If there is biological reactions inside that box that are transforming carbon dioxide back to oxygen with high efficiency you could be stuck in there for an extended period of time.
If the smell didn't kill you, sure

And if urine and feces were invisibly merged with this oxygen, then that's good too, right? Water changes are the easiest and simplest form of keeping water quality up. Why would you be that lazy?
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If the smell didn't kill you, sure

And if urine and feces were invisibly merged with this oxygen, then that's good too, right? Water changes are the easiest and simplest form of keeping water quality up. Why would you be that lazy?
Well, i was just adressing the "air" aspect of his analogy. As for bioload, that can be neutralized by other biological/chemical reations. I am not advocating not doing water changes but I beg the question, when waste is negligible and bological processes in the aquarium or efficient, is it acceptable to be lazy on the water changes? Is this a old -he said she said- "requirement" that has been passed around aquarists and ingrained into their heads as "rules"?
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Well, i was just adressing the "air" aspect of his analogy. As for bioload, that can be neutralized by other biological/chemical reations. I am not advocating not doing water changes but I beg the question, when waste is negligible and bological processes in the aquarium or efficient, is it acceptable to be lazy on the water changes? Is this a old -he said she said- "requirement" that has been passed around aquarists and ingrained into their heads as "rules"?
Sure, I think the less load you have, the longer you can walk that line. But why? Changing water is simple. It's good for the fish. It's good for the corals. It's good all round. So why do we not want to change water?
I maintain it's lazy/cheap. And if so, then this is the wrong hobby.
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Sure, I think the less load you have, the longer you can walk that line. But why? Changing water is simple. It's good for the fish. It's good for the corals. It's good all round. So why do we not want to change water?
If all of my perameters are good, how is it more benifical to do frequent water changes. I know it is 'good', but how is it benificial? I am talking about diminished returns here.

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Cheapness/laziness might just mean "to do what is required and only required"?
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If all of my perameters are good, how is it more benifical to do frequent water changes. I know it is 'good', but how is it benificial? I am talking about diminished returns here.


Cheapness/laziness might just mean "to do what is required and only required"?
What parameters, how you read the ingredients in synthetic salt mix before?
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