Basement built thread. Getting city permit with my awesome drawing :-)

[sphelps]

Sinks have to vented in a certain way, I'm not a plumber but I'm pretty sure you can't just tie sinks in together especially since I believe the toilet and the shower are actually using the sink vent. Be sure to verify exactly how that all needs to be connected with a plumber before getting too far.

Personally I think I'd move the bathroom rough ins a little, reposition everything so the bathroom runs the other way and eats up some of that mechanical room space. Make the bar a u-shape and push that into the mechanical room as well, then put the tank in wall behind the bar so the fish room can go in the mechanical room. Fish rooms that eat up floor space will kill your resale.

[Coleus]

Originally Posted by lastlight

Your font choice is far too playful. The city will send you packing =)

I have to live with the 3D text that in google sketch, can't find 2D one

Originally Posted by sphelps

Sinks have to vented in a certain way, I'm not a plumber but I'm pretty sure you can't just tie sinks in together especially since I believe the toilet and the shower are actually using the sink vent. Be sure to verify exactly how that all needs to be connected with a plumber before getting too far.

Thanks

Personally I think I'd move the bathroom rough ins a little, reposition everything so the bathroom runs the other way and eats up some of that mechanical room space. Make the bar a u-shape and push that into the mechanical room as well, then put the tank in wall behind the bar so the fish room can go in the mechanical room. Fish rooms that eat up floor space will kill your resale.

Can't move any further because they design it so that the furnace is right behind the sink and toilet. Can't move any further back :-(. Maybe you don't mind draw me some pict of your idea. I can't figure it out sorry

Here is the furnace in place

Originally Posted by lockrookie

the fish can watch you and you them whileyour soaking in the tub lol

Yeah and they will go blind after that :-D

[Coleus]

i can't edit the post again so here is the pict

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by Coleus

i can't edit the post again so here is the pict

Man I love how they build houses these days...

[Coleus]

Originally Posted by sphelps

Man I love how they build houses these days...

Well the house is 8 years old and maybe the previous owner did not bother where they put it :-(

[The Grizz]

Originally Posted by sphelps

Sinks have to vented in a certain way

I have a bathroom with a shower and a double sink in the main part of my office that are all tied in together with just one main vent, no issues.

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by The Grizz

I have a bathroom with a shower and a double sink in the main part of my office that are all tied in together with just one main vent, no issues.

Double sinks share a pee trap, so it's no different than a single. In theory if sinks are close enough you could do the same but with sinks in different rooms I doubt it meets code. I'm pretty sure you can tie into the sink vent a certain way but I also think the size of the vent depends on the number of drains. Chances are the floor drain in the mech room is also sharing the bathroom vent and he's adding two more drains. So it's something to look into.

[Delphinus]

Originally Posted by sphelps

Double sinks share a pee trap, so it's no different than a single. In theory if sinks are close enough you could do the same but with sinks in different rooms I doubt it meets code. I'm pretty sure you can tie into the sink vent a certain way but I also think the size of the vent depends on the number of drains. Chances are the floor drain in the mech room is also sharing the bathroom vent and he's adding two more drains. So it's something to look into.

I can weigh in on this one. As long as you use a sanitary-T then it meets code. I have this in my basement and it is one of the few things the plumbing inspector passed me on in the first attempt. This is a sink in a mini-kitchen area and a bathroom sink behind the wall and they share a rough-in.

My inspector didn't care so much about any of the water supply lines, only about how things drain and how they vent. So I'm reasonably confident in this assertion - however with the said, code can and does change from time to time.

If ever in doubt however, the best thing to do is ask the city inspection department. Call 311 and ask to speak to the permit inspectors, there will be a manager of the actual inspectors who come to you yours house on phone duty 8am to 4pm, you usually don't have to wait beyond a couple minutes on hold and then you can ask specifically about things that they can pass or not pass. Wish I had known this before my first inspection. I asked a licensed plumber about something and he told me it was code, only to find out it was not code after all and thus failed the inspection. You'd think the professionals would know but they don't always. Just go straight to the source. They'll tell you straight up what they are looking for.

[Coleus]

Originally Posted by Delphinus

I can weigh in on this one. As long as you use a sanitary-T then it meets code. I have this in my basement and it is one of the few things the plumbing inspector passed me on in the first attempt. This is a sink in a mini-kitchen area and a bathroom sink behind the wall and they share a rough-in.

My inspector didn't care so much about any of the water supply lines, only about how things drain and how they vent. So I'm reasonably confident in this assertion - however with the said, code can and does change from time to time.

If ever in doubt however, the best thing to do is ask the city inspection department. Call 311 and ask to speak to the permit inspectors, there will be a manager of the actual inspectors who come to you yours house on phone duty 8am to 4pm, you usually don't have to wait beyond a couple minutes on hold and then you can ask specifically about things that they can pass or not pass. Wish I had known this before my first inspection. I asked a licensed plumber about something and he told me it was code, only to find out it was not code after all and thus failed the inspection. You'd think the professionals would know but they don't always. Just go straight to the source. They'll tell you straight up what they are looking for.

Thanks Tony. So let me understand this. you need different drain for each sink?

[sphelps]

It's sounds like you can tee them into one drain according to Tony but I was told you also need to run another vent from the new sink and tie that in a certain way as well. Was told if you just tee into the same drain pipe then draining one sink can end up siphoning the other sinks pee trap. Unless you can run a single pee trap but I was never given this option.