Arc fault circuit interupter

[troni]

Originally Posted by outacontrol

Well I am also an electrician and it is against code to install receptacles in cabinets or cupboards, so that is not very good advice! It is also against code to move your receptacles without a permit, so for most reefers that is not great advice either.
Installing AFCI is probably a good idea, but be careful not to put everything on one control device. You don't want your whole tank turning off due a tripped breaker or receptacle. GFCI is a must though!
Buy some good quality powerbars, plug them into GFCI receptacles and always use a drip loop in all your cords.

Ya your right slipped my mind about cabinet. My excuse is I'm commercial. And no permit need to raise a plug can't think of the rule but I'm pretty sure no permit to move a few plugs. Well not in alberta.

[outacontrol]

Originally Posted by troni

Ya your right slipped my mind about cabinet. My excuse is I'm commercial. And no permit need to raise a plug can't think of the rule but I'm pretty sure no permit to move a few plugs. Well not in alberta.

Not trying to be a jerk here, but wrong again. A permit is required for any change to any electrical system, moving a receptacle is definately a change.
Permits are not required for maintance such as replacement of a receptacle.

Since you brought of the rules, CEC rule 2-004 states; Electrical contractors or others responsible for carrying out the work shall obtain a permit from the inspection department before commencing work with respect to installation, alteration, repair, or extension of any electrical equipment.

This applies to everywhere in Canada as it is the Canadian Electrical Code. It applies to everyone and applies to any changes to any electrical system.

[Nate]

Bazinga!

[troni]

Must of been years since you've been on tools huh? Cause your talking like a office guy. Nobody is going to get a permit to move a plug.

Yes its the canadian electrical code but its a suggested code. Every province has its own legislatio

[Lampshade]

It's still part of the code though, so when your insurance company is looking for ways to not pay you it will for sure come up. For the case of beer it'd cost to get someone to come help out might be worth it.

[Avrbuster]

Originally Posted by troni

Must of been years since you've been on tools huh? Cause your talking like a office guy.

Well he did get that one right, only it's a little worse!

I learnt 2 things a while ago, never argue with outacontrol on electrical issues, as he is seldom wrong. And he will be wiring my basement when I get ready to do it!

Avrbuster

[Magma]

Originally Posted by troni

Must of been years since you've been on tools huh? Cause your talking like a office guy. Nobody is going to get a permit to move a plug.

Yes its the canadian electrical code but its a suggested code. Every province has its own legislatio

I'm on the tools right now in fact I do office renos and to move a plug 6" to the left I need a permit and inspection. The same goes for residential.

The code is suggestive yes but its also a legal document.

FYI this is from city of Edmonton website.

Permit Requirements
All new electrical installations require a permit, such as:

New construction
Renovations/alterations
Basement developments
Hot tub installations
Garage wiring
Service upgrade
Any additions to an electrical system, adding new circuits/wiring for receptacles and/or lighting, repair/replacement of aluminum wiring and garden shed wiring to name a few.

http://www.edmonton.ca/bylaws_licenc...sidential.aspx

Not saying it doesn't happen from time to time but its a big slap to the bank account if you get caught without one.

[outacontrol]

Originally Posted by troni

Must of been years since you've been on tools huh? Cause your talking like a office guy. Nobody is going to get a permit to move a plug.

Yes its the canadian electrical code but its a suggested code. Every province has its own legislatio

Man you are just full great information, are you sitting on the toilet when you write these replies? Cause I think some of your information and advise should be wiped up with some toilet paper and flushed.

The decision to pull a permit is a decision that everyone should make on their own from an educated stand point, you should not be advising people in a public forum that permits are not required.

When did you get your ticket? Does your boss know that you think the Canadian Electrical Code is just a suggested code? The CEC is the mandated legislated code, no if ands or buts about it! Every province has its own legislation - you must be refering the Alberta Standata, which is a document that amends and provides interpretation of the CEC.
As an electrician you can be fined, lose your ticket and even go to jail for breaking the code.

Please think twice before continuing with your miss-informed, and miss-leading information.

[troni]

This is tough to do:
Yes you are correct that is the proper way to do it. Thank you. Its tough keeping the proper mindset with a company like the one I work for.

[Avrbuster]

Originally Posted by troni

This is tough to do:
Yes you are correct that is the proper way to do it. Thank you. Its tough keeping the proper mindset with a company like the one I work for.

I have to say, it's nice to see someone admit they made a mistake on the internet. That is extremely rare. My hat is off to you troni!

On a personal side note, I know it's hard to stand up when you have tons of pressure to cut a few corners and your Bose (or Bosses) tell you to do it. But I would encourage you to voice your concerns. I'm no expert, but I believe in a court of law you are just as culpable as the company and could be open to litigation at a personal level. Don't think for one minute the company is going to stand behind you if sh*t hits the fan!