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Old 01-28-2012, 07:02 AM
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I'm a newb.. but I am wondering if starting a tank using some sort of GFO would help remove the PO from the tank, bypassing some of the new tank issues you faced?

This will become a real concern to me in a few days when I get my 72g and sump. I'll be moving my 2 nanos into it along with some fresh base rock. I already have a fair selection of mostly thriving SPS.. dont want to lose any...trying to learn what I can.
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Old 01-28-2012, 07:19 AM
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Hi Steve, if you were considering running GFO eventually anyhow then I would probably consider running GFO from the get-go. That way it will have to fight harder to accumulate, rather than you having to fight harder to reduce it.

I have a theory that part of the issue I'm facing is that I used dried rock for the scaping and was hoping it would reseed easily, plus that I tried to use fewer lbs-per-gallon to leave an open feel to the tank so that the tangs would have more swimming space. If I were to do it all over again, I would use precured rock instead of dry. I had this theory that if I used mostly (or all) dried rock then I wouldn't have to worry about introduced pests like aiptasia, majano, mantis, crabs, etc. .. and darn it all if that some of that stuff doesn't get in there anyhow (on the bottoms of frags and whatnot). So much for that theory.
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Old 01-28-2012, 06:19 PM
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Looks great Tony, although the photos could be bigger

Get some GFO in there, I don't care what they say about zeo, sometimes that schuff just don't get the job done.
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Photobucket shrunk them to 480 wide I think. I'll have to poke around with settings and try again or a different photoshare maybe.
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Fts look nice man I saw how bad the hair algae was so I know how much you e turned it around! The background looks cool how it's got the varying texture between blue and the darker bits. Red planet looks big too. Wish I saw more gorge in there but when you think you're ready you can have some off mine (yours).
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Tony, where did your pipes end up after this pic? Care to post a new one?
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Tony, as per our chat yesterday, this is the dosing schedule G. Alexander had suggested for my 200g water volume...

~1.9l of zeolites, water flow ~ 200 US gallons per hour changed at 6-8 weeks. If you have recently started zeovit I would recommend to run the reactor with a 3 hour on / off interval for the first couple of week

0.75 liter activated carbon flown passively

Dose Coral Vitalizer @ 4 drops/2 x weekly

Dose Amino Acid HC @ 4 drops/2 x weekly

Dose Zeostart2 @ 0.7 ml 2 x daily

dose Xtra @ 4ml/ 2 x weekly

Dose Zeobac @ 8 drops twice weekly

Dose Zeofood7 @ 4 drops twice weekly

Agitate reactor once daily

I'm also a huge proponent of new clean rock from the real live ocean! Rock will adsorb nutrients over the years, and using any used rock, dry or otherwise, can and often will lead to algae issues. Yes, you save a few bucks, but I find saving a few bucks in this hobby often has a cost.

I don't think the zeo system works on the more is better principle, and I suspect that it will eventually work for you, but you have a ton of PO4 to suck out first. GFO may help accelerate that, or perhaps change your zeolites more often.
Not sure about running both, never tried it, but starting with new rock (20% maybe older from previous tank), running zeo from the start, my PO4 is 0.02 or lower. I also change 25% of the water biweekly.
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I have a theory that part of the issue I'm facing is that I used dried rock for the scaping and was hoping it would reseed easily, plus that I tried to use fewer lbs-per-gallon to leave an open feel to the tank so that the tangs would have more swimming space. If I were to do it all over again, I would use precured rock instead of dry. I had this theory that if I used mostly (or all) dried rock then I wouldn't have to worry about introduced pests like aiptasia, majano, mantis, crabs, etc. .. and darn it all if that some of that stuff doesn't get in there anyhow (on the bottoms of frags and whatnot). So much for that theory.

Its funny you brought this up. I also started my tank with all dry rock in hopes to avoid all of the problems you have mentioned. So far, I have aptaisia, bubble algae, and now a wicked outbreak of cyano. I just started the zeo method in hope to starve out the algae issues, But i refuse to take off the GFO, while cyano is going on
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