Herbie Drain

[parkinsn]

Is one hole 1" and the other is 1-1/2" or are they the same?

If they are different us the bigger of the 2 for the emergency and put the gate on the smaller of the 2. If they are the same keep the pipe size the same if you can.


Oh, and welcome to Canreef!!

[CountryBoy72]

The holes in the bottom of the tank are both for a standard 1" bulkhead fitting. The two pipes above are what are different sizes. The smaller of the two pipes I assume was supposed to be used for the return.

[parkinsn]

If the BH's are the same it won't matter which you use for a drain, or what size you use above or below. If 1" is the most narrow point that is how much water you can handle through it.

http://flexpvc.com/WaterFlowBasedOnPipeSize.shtml

[CountryBoy72]

Thanks guys, parkinsn do I put the gate valve on both drains or just the main ?

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by CountryBoy72

Thanks guys, parkinsn do I put the gate valve on both drains or just the main ?

just the main, you dont want any restrictions on the emergency.


also you should have your emergency slightly out of water so it only sees water during a emergency.

[sphelps]

For the emergency drain using a larger pipe of 1.5" above a 1" bulkhead is actually ideal if possible. A 1.5" riser will flow more water than a 1" riser despite the bulkhead being 1" for both cases. Same rules apply to standpipes, usually for best results your standpipe should be one or two sizes larger than the bulkhead. This just allows higher flow at the entry point which has zero head pressure as appose to the bulkhead which can potentially have head pressure equal to that of the standpipe height.

[CountryBoy72]

Awesome, thanks.

[Parker]

With a herbie, you always want your emergency drain to be equal to or greater then your primary. If the primary is larger and backs up the emergency drain will not be able to handle the same amount of flow. You don't need to valve the emergency, it's only there as a just in case.

[fishytime]

Technically thats not true Robb......the primary should be able to handle the entire flow that the return puts into the tank, with the gate valve open all the way.....so if the emergency is the same diameter, then it should also be able to handle the flow if the primary drain is restricted more than the gate valve being closed to adjust the water line in the overflow......did that make sense?