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Old 12-05-2011, 07:18 PM
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First of all, I feel for you. Having a tank blow on you is terrible.

I do agree that it was probably caused by over-tightening the bulkhead. Did you use a wrench or tool or did you tighten by hand. I ALWAYS hand-tighten bulkheads because of this possibility.

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Old 12-05-2011, 07:41 PM
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Sorry to hear about the misfortune. I have heard about several tank bottom blown outs due to modification of a close loop system. funny thing is most of them are on larger marineland tanks like the deep dimension series.
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Old 12-05-2011, 09:15 PM
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Sorry to hear about the misfortune. I have heard about several tank bottom blown outs due to modification of a close loop system. funny thing is most of them are on larger marineland tanks like the deep dimension series.
Is this from people drilling into Deep Dimension tanks? Just wondering becuase I just purchased the Marineland Deep Dimension 150 gal cube that has the overflow. However i was thinking of removing the plastic partitioned so that i can plumb the corner holes directly to my canisters. I would prefer not to use the overflow risking air bubbles in the canister.
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Old 12-05-2011, 09:34 PM
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I can't tell you exactly what caused the failure but I highly doubt it was from over tightening a bulkhead. I do know that when you modify a standard type tank so the bottom looks like Swiss cheese you can no longer rely on support from the edges only, you need to reconfigure how the base is supported typically with foam and a solid base.

Reason being is typical DIY drilling procedures result in a large number of defects around the holes that act as stress concentrations. These stress concentrations greatly reduce safety factor, even a slight surface imperfection can double the local stress. These high local stresses can now easily spread into cracks with a decent load, adding additional support to the base reduces the load and therefore the resulting stress.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:17 AM
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I can't tell you exactly what caused the failure but I highly doubt it was from over tightening a bulkhead. I do know that when you modify a standard type tank so the bottom looks like Swiss cheese you can no longer rely on support from the edges only, you need to reconfigure how the base is supported typically with foam and a solid base.

Reason being is typical DIY drilling procedures result in a large number of defects around the holes that act as stress concentrations. These stress concentrations greatly reduce safety factor, even a slight surface imperfection can double the local stress. These high local stresses can now easily spread into cracks with a decent load, adding additional support to the base reduces the load and therefore the resulting stress.
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:41 AM
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feel for you, but never understood how over-tightening a bulkhead would crack a tank
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feel for you, but never understood how over-tightening a bulkhead would crack a tank

especially only a quarter turn past hand tight
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Old 12-06-2011, 02:45 PM
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I can't tell you exactly what caused the failure but I highly doubt it was from over tightening a bulkhead. I do know that when you modify a standard type tank so the bottom looks like Swiss cheese you can no longer rely on support from the edges only, you need to reconfigure how the base is supported typically with foam and a solid base.

Reason being is typical DIY drilling procedures result in a large number of defects around the holes that act as stress concentrations. These stress concentrations greatly reduce safety factor, even a slight surface imperfection can double the local stress. These high local stresses can now easily spread into cracks with a decent load, adding additional support to the base reduces the load and therefore the resulting stress.
I would go as far saying it looked like swiss cheese having four 3/4" bulkheads on a 93 tank IMO is not excessive. There are many factors that may have contributed to the fracture. One possibility could have been the placement of a large 2 foot tall drift wood stump. one of the legs sat within inches of the bulkhead where the fracture occured. Personally I have a feeling it may have more to do with the quality of the hole i drilled. I didnt tape the underneath to minimize shelling.
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Old 12-05-2011, 09:13 PM
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I do agree that it was probably caused by over-tightening the bulkhead. Did you use a wrench or tool or did you tighten by hand.
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I used a wrench.. was beyond hand tight. Learned my lesson though
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