Yet Another Warning

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Couldn't have said it better myself Oh, don't handle eyeballs without gloves....just sayin'

brad what happened to rogue mod???? just noticed lol

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by reefwars

brad what happened to rogue mod???? just noticed lol

Some people just didn't get the humor

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

Thanks for the chuckles people. Keep up the good work

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by reefwars

brad what happened to rogue mod???? just noticed lol

Just for historical purposes...this is where that all started

Originally Posted by fishoholic

I think we should put Rogue Mod under Aquattro's name, and I should have "The cool chick" instead of plain old "member" under mine

[Lampshade]

To be fair, there are LOTS of reports of palytoxin poisoning. Originally it was said that only one group of zoa's from one Hawaiian tide-pool contained this. SO the odd's of anyone one of us having it are slim to none. Now that people know about it... there's stuff on lots of aquarium sites saying that ALL zoas/paly's contain it. If this is also true, it'd be more common.

In general, the warning is fair, if you're feeling messed up, see a doctor. There's lots of weird crap in our tanks, some worse than others.

[Murminator]

Been there done that......a couple times

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=68234



http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=74765

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by Murminator

Been there done that......a couple times

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=68234





http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=74765

murray i thought of you the second this was posted.....didnt we all have this conversation already lol

[Murminator]

Originally Posted by reefwars

murray i thought of you the second this was posted.....didnt we all have this conversation already lol

Several times this topic seems to pop up every 6 months or so....

[Zoaelite]

Nooowww, before you all chew my face off for saying this keep in mind I'm playing devils advocate here. In no way am I saying you should make a point of being "unsafe" while handling or caring for any of our marine creatures but everyone pointing the "palytoxin" finger really needs to stop doing so.

Daniella is simply explaining that as far as the scientific process goes you all blow, and quite frankly I have to agree with her. With out scientifically based proof (some sort of test identifying palytoxin as your culprit) your all jumping the gun and pointing at a compound that probably has little to do with whats going on.

Yes Max experienced symptoms but there are hundreds of thousands of compounds in saltwater created by hundreds of thousands of different organisms, any one of these could be your culprit. Max could also have any number of physiological problems wrong with him in addition to the effects of this "mystery compound". So again, take from it what you will but with out definitive proof please stop pointing blindly at Palytoxin.

She makes a really good point;

Originally Posted by daniella3d

The problem with this type of thread is that the OP simply assume that it was caused by handling zoanthids and he comes here and say so as if it was the true story, but without having done proper test and having consulted a doctor, it is just pure assumption. This is how myths multiply and survive.

There are scientific channels to ensure the "facts" we spew are in fact true, I'm surely preaching to the wrong choir on an internet forum that bases facts off opinion but if anyone takes anything from this post it's please do your research, blindly following others opinions can have grave consequences.

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by zoaElite

Nooowww, before you all chew my face off for saying this keep in mind I'm playing devils advocate here. In no way am I saying you should make a point of being "unsafe" while handling or caring for any of our marine creatures but everyone pointing the "palytoxin" finger really needs to stop doing so.

Daniella is simply explaining that as far as the scientific process goes you all blow, and quite frankly I have to agree with her. With out scientifically based proof (some sort of test identifying palytoxin as your culprit) your all jumping the gun and pointing at a compound that probably has little to do with whats going on.

Yes Max experienced symptoms but there are hundreds of thousands of compounds in saltwater created by hundreds of thousands of different organisms, any one of these could be your culprit. Max could also have any number of physiological problems wrong with him in addition to the effects of this "mystery compound". So again, take from it what you will but with out definitive proof please stop pointing blindly at Palytoxin.

She makes a really good point;


There are scientific channels to ensure the "facts" we spew are in fact true, I'm surely preaching to the wrong choir on an internet forum that bases facts off opinion but if anyone takes anything from this post it's please do your research, blindly following others opinions can have grave consequences.

levi raises a good point could be as simple as a bristle worm in the zoas/palys and an alergic reaction ......i guess the only thing i learned from this thread was to take precautions when working in your tank because theres alot we dont understand or alot of things we dont even know is in there