This really steams me.

[Zoaelite]

Originally Posted by JMes

I would like to buy a fish. Anything that is blue. It has to be blue because I just decorated,and I want the fish to match my nice blue wallpaper. All your fish have velvet or Ick. Whats that? Oh,its normal in healthy fish. COOL,
thanks for clearing that up with me. Ok,I want a blue fish,Preferably velvet as the word velvet sounds sexy.OMG!! I will name it velvet Revolver!! Size? DAmn right size matters. Always say Bigger the better. My tank? It's one of those cube things. Biocube 14? Doesn't matter as velvet Revolver will fit right at home with the other 10 fish in there.
Oh,I will also take one of those dying or dead stick corals. Do those 1000 little flat things covering it cost extra?

Big deal,obviously someone you know sold you the coral at discount price. Fact of the matter these guys sell alot of unhealthy fish,dead or dying corals to inexperienced hobbyist at premium prices. I have seen this first hand. I wouldn`t put any of their corals or fish 10 feet from my tank. Go BS someone else

At the end of the day Caveat emptor applies, if your going to purchase something research it first. Your generalizing about all staff members @ all big box stores, I'm just playing devils advocate and saying there are few good ones out there.

I know of one person at this certain location that is highly knowledgeable about our hobby, having worked at a chain store your melodramatic impression of a LFS employee was a little insulting. Have you worked @ a LFS? Have you worked a retail job? I'm certainly not BS'ing when I say customers with predetermined mind frames like yourself make retail miserable.

[kien]

And we're back!

ZoaSensei is right tho. There are a couple of very knowlegable staffers at both Big Box stores that are in this hobby and also frequent this board. However they don't work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week so to fill the void there are some not-as-knowledgeable staffers, sadly :-(

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by kien

And we're back!

Do you, by any chance, deliver? I could use some of that popcorn

[kien]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Do you, by any chance, deliver? I could use some of that popcorn

Focus Brad focus!! The random thought thread is over th... Oh.. Nevermind..

[Zoaelite]

Originally Posted by kien

Focus Brad focus!! The random thought thread is over th... Oh.. Nevermind..

I laughed so hard at this <3.

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by zoaElite

At the end of the day Caveat emptor applies, if your going to purchase something research it first. Your generalizing about all staff members @ all big box stores, I'm just playing devils advocate and saying there are few good ones out there.

I know of one person at this certain location that is highly knowledgeable about our hobby, having worked at a chain store your melodramatic impression of a LFS employee was a little insulting. Have you worked @ a LFS? Have you worked a retail job? I'm certainly not BS'ing when I say customers with predetermined mind frames like yourself make retail miserable.

agreed completely i knew one at edmontons store and he was very knowlegeable it is what it is some are some arent.....its on the consumer


healthiest clam i ever bought came from aqua giant, guy at big als found me a gate valve in a hurry/emergency from his house and gave it to me for free.....ive also had not so good experiences similar to the one the op is talking about....it is what it is....some of our own most respected reefers that work at these stores are on this site and unless you knew them in person you would never have guessed,hell id go as far as to say some of you accepted advise from them not knowing it lol

[martinmcnally]

I was in and LFS in San Francisco one time and watched the clerk as this guy approached with a fish tank and his 5 year old daughter coming walking with a little container of clown fish haha. This place you pick our your own fish. He just looked at the guy and said "ummm yea, your not ready for those, gold fish are over there" haha

[Aquaria]

Ok buying fish is just like buying a dog big box store=pjs pets,pet smart, pet cetra ect. Small LFS=the small reputable non puppy mill breeders NOW that being said. a small reputable breeder would NEVER sell a dog to someone they thought wasn't ready or didn't know enough about the breed but on the other hand the big box stores won't even ask where u live or if u know anything about the dog ur buying. Now why should a lfs be any different? I'm also not saying this is a everyone or all situation I'm just saying what iv noticed

[Parker]

I think you also have to factor in the variability of the hobby as well. There are so many ways to do so many things that it's impossible to come up with a tried and true solution for everyone. As a novice the method I researched may not be the method the employee has been taught. The employee has mostly been trained ( I’m sure ) to offer up solutions according the material stocked on the shelves. While it might not be the overall best solution to the issue at hand it's not necessarily wrong.

We all have to at the very least remember that this is a business designed and built to make money. The general public may put too much faith in the employee. Case in point how many people would take the word of a used car salesman saying this car was only driven by a little old lady to church on Sundays. It happens sure, but I bet it's far less than the people walking in to buy a tank and a clown fish the first day. As mentioned above the buyer needs to be educated as well as the employee.

I ( and I'm sure everyone here ) use those big box stores. I really like the guys at my small LFS and enjoy talking with them, but let’s be honest sometimes it's nice to run into the big box store grab what you need off the shelf and take off, in and out in 2.3 minutes. There is a place for them.