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Old 09-07-2011, 06:44 AM
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I have been keeping fish for close to 25 years
Wow Dougster you are old!



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Old 09-07-2011, 02:04 PM
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are you forgetting, Mindy, that I probably have a generation on you.......sally's and others started with plankton based foods in the nineties....... fairly recent in the grand scheme of things
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and I mention the age thing because I have been keeping fish for close to 25 years...... well before specialty foods like plankton were available
I'm not that far behind you Doug. I had my fish freshwater tank in 1988, and first saltwater tank in 1992 or 1993. It helps that I'm quite a bit older than I look, albeit you do have some years on me you old fart. I don't know what foods were available at that time because I only had one saltwater store to shop at (which was in the USA) and no internet to help figure things out. I know I had some sort of frozen food...can't remember what it was. Just in the last 10 years have people been looking towards diet as the cause of ailments such as HLLE and HITH, albeit now "they" think that carbon might play a bigger role than anything.

I imagine the food requirements of fish stuffed into a little box are probably less demanding than their wild counterparts. Take a look at the dog food world...there has been a trend to go to grain-free, high protein kibble to mimic a wild dog's diet. The trouble with that is there are a bunch of couch potatoes being fed the diet of a body builder.

I'm all for feeding "natural" diets to all my pets, but I don't see it as the be all end all, and definitely not a cure all. Just because something looks right, doesn't mean it is best.

I don't think you're wrong Doug, in fact I think you`re likely "onto something"...not necessarily a new something.
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Old 09-07-2011, 03:03 PM
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I like to feed frozen hotdogs...
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Old 09-07-2011, 05:47 PM
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hmmm... hotdogs... the particle board of meat. ;-) I saw a billboard ad for some fast food. "Meal for one, salt for four". I think hot dogs fit into the fast food category as well.

A varied diet is very important for health of people and animals. I know if people eat too high a protein level they can get Kidney disease and gout, if you feed rabbits too high of a protein content they get sores on their feet. Ducks are the same way. The question is are fish the same way since they are a much smaller creature and are also cold blooded? In the fish world there seems to be the trash cans which eat anything and then the coral polyp eaters which only eat polyps from certain genus of corals. So who knows?

I have found that our little wet friends are able to tolerate only so much stress, once past that point they breakdown with some disease and die. By providing a nutritionally complete food, a glass box with natural type surroundings and stable water conditions we can keep their stress levels manageable. When one of those three goes out of wack then they tend to breakdown. A prime example is the Ick storms after a big heat wave or temperature fluctuation. IMHO the most important parameter is stable water conditions, then surroundings(which includes tankmates) and then food. If they have a low stress level then perhaps they may be better able to tolerate fluctuations when they happen?

The purpose of keeping our little wet friends is to admire their inherent beauty. By feeding the Pacifica Plankton the natural colours of our fish and corals are naturally brought out. With the immune boosting properties of the plankton and it's natural colour enhancing ability why would one not want to feed something so beneficial?

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