Marco Rock Cycles

[apexifd]

I still think 1 week is too good to be true. Although you may be ready for ONE hardy fish.

but, it's probably safer to throw in a raw shrimp to cause another ammonia spike and start another cycle.

[freezetyle]

Originally Posted by apexifd

but, it's probably safer to throw in a raw shrimp to cause another ammonia spike and start another cycle.

I would go with this. I started my last tank with dry rock and ended up sacrificing about 4 orange striped cardinals because i thought the tank was ready.

[fishytime]

like I said......dead rock, is dead rock...marco rock has been dead for 10000 years......dust cant decompose...it is not ready to sustain a bio-load!.......man......you get tired of seeing people starting tanks with all dead rock, or 100#s dead 20#s live in a 120g, or 30#s of live in 120g, cuz they're going for the "minimalist look" (aka the "Im too cheap to buy rock look"(j/k)) and then see them back on the board later with a bunch of fish, starting threads like..... " I have cyano"......"I have high nitrates".......I have hair algae....."I have dead fish"......start a tank with 100% LR and your supposed to exercise patience......start a tank with dead rock and.......well .....you get the point.....I suppose you could use some kind of bottle to speed up the process if thats what you want, but to me, nuthin will beat good live rock and some patience

[Myka]

Originally Posted by fishytime

like I said......dead rock, is dead rock...marco rock has been dead for 10000 years......dust cant decompose...it is not ready to sustain a bio-load!.......man......you get tired of seeing people starting tanks with all dead rock, or 100#s dead 20#s live in a 120g, or 30#s of live in 120g, cuz they're going for the "minimalist look" (aka the "Im too cheap to buy rock look"(j/k)) and then see them back on the board later with a bunch of fish, starting threads like..... " I have cyano"......"I have high nitrates".......I have hair algae....."I have dead fish"......start a tank with 100% LR and your supposed to exercise patience......start a tank with dead rock and.......well .....you get the point.....I suppose you could use some kind of bottle to speed up the process if thats what you want, but to me, nuthin will beat good live rock and some patience

Post of the day! I agree 100%.

[fishytime]

Originally Posted by Myka

Post of the day! I agree 100%.

thanks Mindy......Im feeling feisty tonight

[Myka]

You got into the 0.5% beer again tonight didn't you?

[fishytime]

move that decimal point

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by fishytime

like I said......dead rock, is dead rock...marco rock has been dead for 10000 years......dust cant decompose...it is not ready to sustain a bio-load!.......man......you get tired of seeing people starting tanks with all dead rock, or 100#s dead 20#s live in a 120g, or 30#s of live in 120g, cuz they're going for the "minimalist look" (aka the "Im too cheap to buy rock look"(j/k)) and then see them back on the board later with a bunch of fish, starting threads like..... " I have cyano"......"I have high nitrates".......I have hair algae....."I have dead fish"......start a tank with 100% LR and your supposed to exercise patience......start a tank with dead rock and.......well .....you get the point.....I suppose you could use some kind of bottle to speed up the process if thats what you want, but to me, nuthin will beat good live rock and some patience

couldnt have said it better doug, ok so dead rock is dead its that simple using only dead rock will result in dead fish....seeding takes time a lot of it infact, and you wont sustain a bio load worth diddly...it takes time.using dead rock is great to add some shapes or save some money but you have to have the right amount of liverock plus the right bio load or your just gonna upset the balance and as doug said high nitrates,amonia spikes, algae and phosphates.liverock is often found cheaper than dead rock i mean it goes for 2/lb now lol start off a new tank with all lr,add dry rock to an existing set up is my advise....i wouldnt start a tank with dry rock unless having plenty of experience and patience in the hobby not saying you dont just throwing it out there for anyone to read.dry rock is def good but it needs to be seeded and that takes a fair bit of time the lower amount of lr you have the longer amount of time it will take

[Myka]

Originally Posted by reefwars

ok so dead rock is dead its that simple

Not quite. There is mined rock that is land locked and has never been in the ocean and there is rock that was previously live. Rock that was previously live will leech phosphate and sometimes nitrate and really should be "cooked" to leech these out before starting with any seeding. Dead rock can be cooked in freshwater. Mined rock won't leech anything because there is nothing on or in it that was ever alive.

[David Newiger]

it's a 90G with 70/30 live rock base rock. There's one piece of Tufa rock as well.