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Old 07-10-2011, 03:23 PM
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K well after taking all advice by increasing plant based foods and ensuring water quality the mark has become smaller buy Alot and seems to be scabbed over it is now about a pin head in size

Thanks to all the people who helped. I will keep a eye on him.
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Old 07-12-2011, 03:09 PM
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Although tangs like non veggie food from time to time all tangs except the blue tang need algae to live and grow
Correct, but that does not equate to any tang requiring spirulina as the main part of its daily nutrient intake.

The optimum nutrient intake for tangs is far more complex than simply feeding them aquatic based plant matter in large amounts. Furthermore the premium pelleted diet known not to induce HLLE that was mentioned in the article on HLLE that was linked to above, was NLS, as was the pellet food used in the study by Tilghman, et-al that took place almost a decade ago.
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Old 07-12-2011, 03:32 PM
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What are the first 3 ingredients listed on the NLS package/

What is the cost?
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:07 PM
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What does that have to do with anything? One should feed Wardley's because it's cheaper, or because Wardley's gives the illusion that it is high in spirulina content?



Previously it was mentioned that one should not feed garlic on a daily basis due to it's long term effect on liver. The reason for the negative effect on a fishes liver is due to the high level of fatty acids derived from (non aquatic) terrestrial based plant matter. Keeping that in mind, take a close look at Wardely Spirulina Discs, the food that you recommended.

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Spirulina Algae Meal, Corn Gluten Feed, Corn Gluten Meal, Corn Distillers Dried Grains, Wheat Flour, Wheat Germ, Wheat Gluten, Wheat Middlings, Linseed Meal, Canola Meal, Dehulled Soybean Meal, Soy Protein Concentrate, Pea Protein, Brewers Dried Yeast, Corn Flour, Rice Flour, Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal, Soy Protein Isolate, Ground Barley, Calcium Carbonate, Soybean Oil, Spinach Powder, Dried Lecithin, L-Ascorbyl-2-Phosphate (Source of Vitamin C), Dicalcium Phosphate, Choline Chloride, Vitamin A Acetate, D-Alpha Tocopherol Acetate, Cholecalciferol (Source of Vitamin D3), Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Ethoxyquin (a Preservative), Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Riboflavin, Cyanocobalamin (Source of Vitamin B12), Manganous Oxide, Zinc Oxide, Ferrous Carbonate, Copper Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Calcium Iodate, Cobalt Carbonate, Sodium Selenite.


Once one gets past the spirulina meal, it looks more like a recipe for pancakes, than it does a fish food. The reality is there is FAR more terrestrial based fillers in that food, than there is spirulina. I don't need to be privy to the various inclusion rates of the raw ingredients to figure that much out.
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:16 PM
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Well I am feeding large amounts of marine based fresh macro algea now and it took a day for the tang to rake it but now it's gone in a minute. On the ingredients of the wafers it has been recommended not
To feed corn to the trout in our lakes so why would I feed it to the fish in my aquarium.

The spot on the head to which this thread was made for has disappeared I attribute this to fresh plant matter and I will keep with occasional pellets from NLS. The tang has shown a
Major improvement and loves the fresh algae daily. So I think I found the trick to it and thank you to blue tang for the macro he gave me.
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:17 PM
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Oh and also. Even though we put mass amounts of corn into processed foods doesn't mean it's healthy. I myself won't eat corn. Not knowingly anyway
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Titus - while I'm glad to hear that your tang is doing better, the removal of carbon from your system is most likely the reason for that (see previous link) not an increase in plant matter.

Either way, I'm glad to hear that it's doing better.
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