Vancouver Fans

[parkinsn]

Originally Posted by abcha0s@conceptaquatics

As for the guy lighting the car on fire, I expect he is in some real trouble. He will go to federal prison and perhaps for a long time.

I should think so, as well I think that the people that burned the cop cars should be paying for replacements, they have got to be $70-$80k+

[silentcivilian]

The chief of police said 15 cars burned and 2 of which were police cars. One culprit was the formentioned boy in post 49 and 50, the other is a young blond girl who has also already been identified and arrested. Charges pending based on evidence. Evidence is a strange thing in courts these days. I know one police officer that has over 40 DUI charges in the last 3 years in Calgary, he has had over 30 thrown out on top of that. He says on a couple of cases its been thrown out due to lack of evidence even though it was evident that they were drunk. So know he makes it sure on his report he has at least 7 confirming peices of evidence and at least 3 witnesses to confirm it. So somthing like this unless someone has a video that shows suspect post #49 actually successfully lighting the car on fire, and shows that no one else also was lighting the car on fire, the charges will be dropped, but he will be nailed with several other smaller charges. They will get him with somthing but to actually charge him with destrction of 50K will be tough.

Also, Gobytron -- Drop it dude. This is coming from a Senators fan who finished 5 worst in the league and sold off most of its talent to the highest bidder. I was cheering for Boston for what I believe to be the right reasons: 1. Mark Recchi after 22 years in the league deserves to walk out of his career with one final cup. 2. Tyler Seguin should text Taylor Hall and say I guess getting drafted Second isnt so bad. 3. Tim Thomas had a amazing year and is the most exciting goal tender to watch.

There are reasons for not cheering for Vancouver too, but thats because of the way they played hockey which was most seen in the Chicago series. If you want a list ill PM it to you.

But ill say this, it was a awesome Stanley cup series from the start and both teams played well, Boston just had more in game 7 when they needed it.

All the happened it Vancouver was a mob mentality, a few empower the masses to do somthing they wouldnt normally do. Of the 100,000 fans on the street and the 14,000 in rogers arena, 100 wanted it, 2000 or so followed it, and the only sad part about those numbers are over 100,000 people just walked away and didnt try to stop it. The awesome part that came out of it, was the 1000's that assembled downtown to help the clean up.

[MKLKT]

The efforts from the citizens cleaning up and helping out has been phenomenal. All the plywood used to replace the windows (of which there are actually 100+) have been completely covered now with sharpie'd and painted messages of support/shame/thanks and just plain emotion about the whole event. A police cruiser that was parked overnight on Granville was completely covered with post-it messages of thanks and support, too. This kind of response is from the true proud and responsible people of Vancouver. The streets were cleaned up by thousands of people who volunteered and took time off just to help clean up, they're cleaner now than they were to begin with.

[StirCrazy]

Originally Posted by silentcivilian

2. Tyler Seguin should text Taylor Hall and say I guess getting drafted Second isnt so bad. .

now that was just plain uncalled for concidering taylor hall had 44 regular season points and seguin only had 22.

Steve

[Doug]

Ok I removed the personal crap & the personal political views. Can we please discuss it without that.

Thanks

[silentcivilian]

Originally Posted by StirCrazy

now that was just plain uncalled for concidering taylor hall had 44 regular season points and seguin only had 22.

Steve

Haha, Its more a joke than anything. But ive always liked Seguins play better than Hall.

Seguin had fewer shots due to being on the 3rd line with limited play. I believe it was almost 50 shots less. TOI is a tough stat to find from the NHL. But Seguins real play was noted in accounting for almost %70 of his teams scoring in the OHL.

I cant argue that both are talented, far more talented being they will make a few million next season off of playing hockey while still being under 20, and ill still be turning wrenchs at 26 haha.. ya life.

[StirCrazy]

Originally Posted by silentcivilian

Haha, Its more a joke than anything. But ive always liked Seguins play better than Hall.

I am oposite, when people were speculating oilers might take seguin, I was saying "I sure hope not" as seguin was more specilized that hall IMO, and the oilers didn't need another high asisting winger, they needed a in your face power forward who scores, which Hall was more suited for. as for TOI, Halls was an average of over 18min a game so ya he was on the ice a lot, and I don't think Seguin could average thoes kind of numbers yet.

this year (7 days and counting to be exact ) I am going against the mock draft and hoping they pick Adam Larson, and not ryan nugent-hopkins or what ever it is. they don't need another forward at all anymore. they have more firepower potential than any team in the NHL at this point, for there second pick I am hoping for another one of the bigger d's but at 19 I don't think there will be any left. so if not a second promising D then maybe look at one of the gibsons. very promising goalies. at any rate they need to do something with goalies.. fire Habby, bring up Gerber or get a younger deicent guy till dubnick has had another year or two to be ready.

Steve

[silentcivilian]

I still think you will trade away Draft Pick #1 for something like the senators did last year in aquiring David Rundblad (however you spell it) but drafting d-men is so time consuming, where like we did, we took a almost ready d-man and traded the 1st away for him to a team that needed first round forwards. To our winning pick, Mr. Rundblad is the Swede elite league d-man player of the year and 5th on the top point getters for the whole league. So thats kinda what I hope they might do, and the tsn crew seems to think thats what they might do too. With that trade we will have Karlsson and Rundblad this year along with our already developed D-core Phillips, Gonchar, Kuba and Carkner.

Your right, Hall is more in your face, and drafting seguin would be like drafting a second Jordan Eberle. Its funny, cause Seguins first goal of the playoffs is scary similar to Eberles first goal of the season.

Ahh.. draft time.. How I look forward to thee..

[StirCrazy]

Originally Posted by silentcivilian

I still think you will trade away Draft Pick #1 for something like the senators did last year in aquiring David Rundblad

its a possibility but I hope not. and don't think they will, the underlining theme seams to be young and new. but with pick number 19 also maybe. or they could trade off pick 19 for something also.

Steve

[MMAX]

Maybe someone should start another thread about the draft since this is mainly about the riot. With that said, being an Oilers fan myself, we need a #1 center. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins will fit this role maybe not next year but soon after. D-men can take a while to develop and first line centers do not grow on trees. RNH first pick maybe a d-man second.