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Old 06-16-2011, 09:08 PM
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Imo anytime you invite 5000-100000 people into the city to watch on the "Big Screen" you are asking for mob mentality to be a factor. They was no doubt as there were a small faction of sh*t disturbers who had planned this from the start. Its not the Canucks as an organization or team that are responsible in any way shape or form for this. This is also on Vancouvers politicians and organizors heads imo. I would not be surprised to see the business's sue the city for the sh*tty planning of this event. They didn't learn in 94 and as the old saying goes, "Those who do not learn from their mistakes are destined to repeat them". The majority of the fans were fine, but like mindless "Lemmings" a few followed the idiots and escalated the situation. This has happened in other cities before and will probably happen again, next time the Canucks make a run for the cup lets hope the city gets smart and tells the people that can't afford tickets to watch it at home or in the bars and stay the hell away from gathering in the city. As a Bruins fan I am very happy my team won, I am disgusted in what happened on the streets of Vancouver after.
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Old 06-16-2011, 09:22 PM
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P.S. - Anyone see all the messages written in chalk on the sidewalk and on boards covering broken windows where the riot occured?

Pretty moving and really shows the real side of this city.
I have some pictures of this, I'll try to up them later. (I'm busy uploading aerial video to the police right now.) I watched from almost the same height of the helicopters and could see exactly where the crowds/police were going. It was insane.

Have some more class Boston guys, please.
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Old 06-16-2011, 09:59 PM
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Have some more class Boston guys, please.
Still more class than this guy will ever have
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Old 06-16-2011, 10:46 PM
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Still more class than this guy will ever have
No those don't look like Van Fans at all?
Keep bringing those sweet pics!
I'd be willing to bet most if not all the rioters were Vancouver-ites & there co-conspirators were all from the central coast & Island. As a kid playing hockey on the island the point of the game & sportsman-ship of any kind was always lost on the majority of the players & especially the crowd. It was such a redneck atmosphere you usually ended up fighting, even members from your own team & afterwards if you did well you'd have to watch your back anywhere you played. Wake the F..k up Van. that's the blue collar mentality your fellow citizens have, with no where to go & nothing to look forwards to, the youth of the working class out there has nothing to lose unfortunately. The riots are created by a socio-economic break down of classes that started 3 decades ago. But seriously it's a super nice place to visit in the summer months. Thomas Kicked ASS!
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Old 06-17-2011, 02:20 PM
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Still more class than this guy will ever have
This will be one the guys who is not a canucks fan and came to this event with the sole purpose of rioting.

You dont bring accellerants and what is probably a backpack of anarchists tools to a hockey game without an alterior motive.

These guys, like the black bloc, wore canucks jerseys to be able to blend into the crowd anonymously after inciting violence.

off hand, how many on this board would even actually know how to set a car on fire in minutes?
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Old 06-17-2011, 02:44 PM
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This will be one the guys who is not a canucks fan and came to this event with the sole purpose of rioting.

You dont bring accellerants and what is probably a backpack of anarchists tools to a hockey game without an alterior motive.

These guys, like the black bloc, wore canucks jerseys to be able to blend into the crowd anonymously after inciting violence.

off hand, how many on this board would even actually know how to set a car on fire in minutes?
So how did he make out with the theory of blending into the crowd anonymously? Check posts #46 & 47 to see that he's tentatively been identified as a young individual with seemingly a lot to lose, scholarship to university, sports possibilities..... I fear for our future society, a few more of these potential leaders running the show.....
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Old 06-17-2011, 02:49 PM
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So how did he make out with the theory of blending into the crowd anonymously? Check post #50 to see that he's tentatively been identified as a young individual with seemingly a lot to lose, scholarship to university, sports possibilities..... I fear for our future society, a few more of these potential leaders running the show.....
Agreed. The worst part for this poor guy is that there is a laundry list of charges that can and will most likely be brough down on him. I would imagin that the police are are going to make examples of all these people they catch. Due to the fact that 10,000 rioters are going to get off but the 100 or more that they do catch are going to get the full brunt of the law in a effort to ensure that this type of thing does not happen again.
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Old 06-17-2011, 03:14 PM
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These people should be charged with treason, IMO that's about right. Max sentence in Canada is life in prison.
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Old 06-16-2011, 10:01 PM
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I am proud to be a Vancouver Canucks fan riot or no riot. 50-80 thousand people doesn't make it easy for crowd control. VPD did what they had to do. It only took a few out of towner to instigate and we got ourselves a full blown riot, they are probably all hitch hike here from Calgary anyways.
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Old 06-16-2011, 10:24 PM
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I am proud to be a Vancouver Canucks fan riot or no riot. 50-80 thousand people doesn't make it easy for crowd control. VPD did what they had to do. It only took a few out of towner to instigate and we got ourselves a full blown riot, they are probably all hitch hike here from Calgary anyways.
true, but the VPD started way to lait as soon as it started they should have used tear gas.

you guys keep saying it was out of towners, are you sure.. do you know the people who started it? or do you know everyone in the vancouver regional district and they have all told you it wasn't them?

I am not saying it wasn't out of towners and I am not saying it was.. what I am saying is it is pretty bold to assume there is no one that lives in a city area with a population of over 2 mill that would cause trouble. as for weather it was canucks fans instagating or not thats not the issue and it isn't a reason to bash any teams fans, what it is is another case of the city not being prepared.

as for the earlier comment about what would have happened if some one tried to interveen there was a video of a guy kicking a car and a girl cold cocked him for it.. he sulked away... if there are only a few out of towners causing problem as people keep saying what about the 80000+ in towners.. you think a couple people are going to stand up to a big mob.. nope. the footage shows that everyone was cheering the few on, then others startrd getting involved..

we had a smaller scale thing in edmonton in the 80's I was in the area but not on the same street. as soon as people started beating and flipping a cop car the fire deparment turned on the water hoses on the crowd. people left and went home before it got much worse..

The VPD knows how fast protests get out of hand down there at the first sign of trouble there should have opened up with the flash bangs and the tear gas.

mind you while I am all for protest and civil rights, I am also against civil disobeadiance so I may take a harder line view on some things.

although I did have to laugh at the video of the guy who got hit in the gonads with the flashbang.. I am sure he isn't feeling all that great.

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