how many to pour a sidewalk

Edmonton newbie · #1 05-28-2011, 09:15 PM

careful bashing the unions boys lol i work union and would invite any one of you to come and try scaffolding for a living. Its is nice not having to worry about begging for a raise or fearing for your job everyday but on the other hand if you dont work you just dont get hired for the next job

marks69 · #2 05-28-2011, 09:23 PM

i was just doing a scaffold job in ontario and esso. we never sat around or screwed the pooch like that. however when i working hydro it looked like a pumpkin patch, 1 guy working and 10 labourers watching me. can't fire them they have senority. i'm a union carpenter and don't sit around, however some people do.
and the wage sounds great till you get layed off for 6 months.

intarsiabox · #3 05-28-2011, 09:50 PM

Not many companys that build houses or contracted to do commercial housing work are union, probably have city surveyors, utility company, etc. out at the same time. A housing company would go broke very fast if they used that many people to do everything.

Samw · #4 06-03-2011, 05:41 AM

I hope there won't be a postal strike. It's a good thing my 3 orders with Amazon this week is via UPS.

chopperman · #5 06-03-2011, 02:22 PM

Im a union Elevator Constructor. I can imagine next time someone is in a Hi-rise elevator that they would expect that the car is installed and maintained by highly qualified techs to be the safest transportation for the public. Not by under paid, overworked and non qualified people. Ive seen first hand the quality control being implemented by the non union sector of my trade. There are buildings in Calgary I wouldnt even ride. Being stuck in elevators sucks. Unions provide not only good wages for its members but they also provide good pensions and welfare programs. I know this post isnt to bash unions, but there is benifits of being a union member. I.U.E.C Local 130 Calgary AB

gobytron · #6 06-03-2011, 03:05 PM

I think the point here is more that there is of course major benefits to being in a union...just not for those who pay for them.

like tax payers in many cases.

Unions are an antiquated aspect of civilization from a time before there was sufficient human rights advocacy.

They are outdated in todays competetive market place and a HUGE reason why the US cant keep their massive debt in check.

That being said, given an opportunity, I would love to be part of a union.

It's stressfull being employed purely on skill and work ethic in a competitive market place.

I cant even imagine what "seniority" feels like....lol

mark · #7 06-03-2011, 03:24 PM

I was wrong on my original post, they didn't pour the sidewalk just the curb.

Since then, they have left, another crew showed up and graded/packed the street, took all their equipment away. Another crew, different equipment, laid out the gravel and after grading gone. Yesterday noticed sprayed oil and see today the paving crew is starting to show up today.

Not sure when the sidewalk will be in.

Edmonton newbie · #8 06-03-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gobytron

I think the point here is more that there is of course major benefits to being in a union...just not for those who pay for them.

like tax payers in many cases.

Unions are an antiquated aspect of civilization from a time before there was sufficient human rights advocacy.

They are outdated in todays competetive market place and a HUGE reason why the US cant keep their massive debt in check.

That being said, given an opportunity, I would love to be part of a union.

It's stressfull being employed purely on skill and work ethic in a competitive market place.

I cant even imagine what "seniority" feels like....lol

wow great point of view for a province that has been socialist ever since i was in diapers lmao its one thing to judge all the unions by watching the city crews work its another to get off the couch and join a working trade. Again just dont cast that one stone and claim that we all get hit by it

gobytron · #9 06-03-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chopperman

Im a union Elevator Constructor. I can imagine next time someone is in a Hi-rise elevator that they would expect that the car is installed and maintained by highly qualified techs to be the safest transportation for the public. Not by under paid, overworked and non qualified people. Ive seen first hand the quality control being implemented by the non union sector of my trade. There are buildings in Calgary I wouldnt even ride. Being stuck in elevators sucks. Unions provide not only good wages for its members but they also provide good pensions and welfare programs. I know this post isnt to bash unions, but there is benifits of being a union member. I.U.E.C Local 130 Calgary AB

Funny, I havent heard about any major elevator related deaths or incidents in Calgary...

chopperman · #10 06-04-2011, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gobytron

Funny, I havent heard about any major elevator related deaths or incidents in Calgary...

Only a couple deaths that I know of in Calgary in the last 15-20 years, but injuries happen on a daily basis. Usually being hit with doors or tripping when entering. The media won't publish a broken arm or leg because that doesnt interest the public, but I here about them in saftey meetings or union meetings in attempts to prevent these things from happening.