Palythoas experience (almost in hospital)

[daniella3d]

That's probably it. Some people will die if sting by a bee...I just develop a small bump that is gone in a few days.

A lot of people can't help but to feel sick, once they learn that there is a potential problem with a toxin. Since here we can read that the man used a respirator, it is obvious that he knew about the risk and that could have affected the perception or even created the reaction. A bit like someone fainting just to the sight of a needle .

Originally Posted by corrosionjerry

I think I just purchased some of this stuff yesterday...

I put it into my tank with my bare hands.... guess I must just be lucky not to get sick or is it because some people are more sensitive then others to it?

Will use rubber gloves from now on when I am moving these critters

[hillegom]

Google palytoxin. You will read that is the second most deadly toxin in the world.
Good thing not all palys have this toxin.

[cale262]

I bought a couple of rocks covered in these Paly's about 6 weeks ago, the person I bought them from took them out of his tank wearing CL gloves and I didn't think anything of it. When I got home I took them out of the bucket with my bare hands, there are so many paly's on these rocks that there was really no rock to grab without grabbing a paly, I felt a couple of them pop under my fingers, even though I was trying to be careful, there was just nowhere else to grab the rocks and the are heavy enough that I couldn't help but pop one or two....Either way I didn't really think anything of it but I did spend the next week in bed very ill with some of these very symptoms.

[RedCoralEdmonton]

lol i would like the vegas odds on the fact that there is 2 Wayne Mahs in edmonton within a week of each other that both got a bad case of Palytoxin poisoning....

Steve

[waynemah]

Originally Posted by RedCoralEdmonton

lol i would like the vegas odds on the fact that there is 2 Wayne Mahs in edmonton within a week of each other that both got a bad case of Palytoxin poisoning....

Steve

Please tell me your kidding?!?

[RedCoralEdmonton]

lol not at all, Wayne was at the reef meet on the weekend with his second bout.... unless this is one big joke and you are one and the same....

Steve

[fencer]

no Steve i am not psycho or split

[ALang]

Yep, Steve is telling you no lie.
I was there when he told us that.
So naturally, Edmonton Newbie, who was also there with his wonderful spouse, also thought that it was one and the same Wayne who had that happened to him.
You should come to our next meeting, just so that we can verify that you are really not him, and vise-versa.
Lenny.

[waynemah]

Originally Posted by daniella3d

That's probably it. Some people will die if sting by a bee...I just develop a small bump that is gone in a few days.

A lot of people can't help but to feel sick, once they learn that there is a potential problem with a toxin. Since here we can read that the man used a respirator, it is obvious that he knew about the risk and that could have affected the perception or even created the reaction. A bit like someone fainting just to the sight of a needle .

I believe you are referring to hypochondria, but does not explain why my dogs and wife (which knows nothing about palytoxin) were sick as well. Dogs were weasing and slept for most of the day, they both were warmer than usual.

Googled hypochondiac dogs, resulted in nothing.

I used the resperator during the fragging of the palys, I then removed it once in another part of the house (upstairs).

[daniella3d]

Pets often can feel when their owners are not feeling well..either physically or if they are not happy. At least my dog does and when I am not feeling right, hangry or not in my best mood my dog usualy look miserable and sleep most of the day on her pillow.

I had dogs all of my live and it was like that for all of them, no exception.

Lets see..how many people died from simple food poisoning? How many people actualy even wash their hands before handling food or eating?

"To better quantify the impact of foodborne diseases on health in the United States, we compiled and analyzed information from multiple surveillance systems and other sources. We estimate that foodborne diseases cause approximately 76 million illnesses, 325,000 hospitalizations, and 5,000 deaths in the United States each year. Known pathogens account for an estimated 14 million illnesses, 60,000 hospitalizations, and 1,800 deaths. Three pathogens, Salmonella, Listeria, and Toxoplasma, are responsible for 1,500 deaths each year, more than 75% of those caused by known pathogens, while unknown agents account for the remaining 62 million illnesses, 265,000 hospitalizations, and 3,200 deaths. Overall, foodborne diseases appear to cause more illnesses but fewer deaths than previously estimated."

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol5no5/mead.htm


Are we going to stop eating? Because the risk of dying from eating something bad is quite a bit more than the risk of even being sick by handling zoanthids and paly.

I never seen a real credible account if someone's death caused by zoanthids or palythoas in the aquarium trade.

How many people handle zoanthids and palythoas bare hand without ever having a single issue?

I don't understand the panic about this, since we live with much more dangerous stuff and much more potent stuff everyday and we don't even care. YOu say that palytoxin is the most potent stuff...but a single tiny winy virus is a lot more potent because that's all it takes to kill you. NOw the palytoxin will not kill you if you simply touch it. People should use common sense.

hypochondria, but does not explain why my dogs and wife (which knows nothing about palytoxin) were sick as well. Dogs were weasing and slept for most of the day, they both were warmer than usual.

There is no such thing as hypochondriac dogs, but there is such thing in humans...very very often.

Googled hypochondiac dogs, resulted in nothing.

I used the resperator during the fragging of the palys, I then removed it once in another part of the house (upstairs).