New Pisces Location

Aquattro · #1 03-24-2011, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lorenz0

But as everyone else has said and myself, your true problem is not in the store, but in the owner of the animal.

This is the part I don't agree with. Once a puppy is isolated from either it's littermates or it's human's direction, and spends any extended length of time in this isolation, it misses out on critical cognitive and behavioural development, that may be impossible to fix. Which creates a dog that invariably ends up in a shelter, or PTS.
Early interaction is critical in canine development, and this isn't acheived in most pet store environments.

EmilyB · #2 03-24-2011, 07:10 PM

Nor are the animals of any quality.

First of all, no respectable breeder breeds crosses. Lhasopoos, Chidoodles, or whatever....

I've also known several puppies that came from pet stores. Everyone of them was nervy or just plain aggressive.

I don't know if Petland is still doing the rescue thing. I think they had a lot of problems. Robert is certainly speaking out against the bill, so I assume he stands to lose something.

Whether or not it is a go, I think it still serves to educate people who really think buying a puppy at a pet store is okay.

Oh, and to who it was above who mentioned getting a boston terrier, please do your research on the problems common in the breed, and find a good breeder who is working towards improving health and temperament, and not just letting two dogs of the opposite sex have at 'er.

saltcreep · #3 03-24-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EmilyB

Nor are the animals of any quality.

First of all, no respectable breeder breeds crosses. Lhasopoos, Chidoodles, or whatever....

And how does banning them in pet retail stores change this? See my post above...93 adds for dogs for sale in the online classifieds of the Vancouver Province alone.

Regulate the stores if that is the concern. Just don't outright ban them. It won't fix the problem.

EmilyB · #4 03-24-2011, 07:33 PM

You would probably be surprised at how quickly people can become educated. Our problems up here are nothing compared to the US.

But thanks to dog forums, facebook, etc. the word is getting out. These BYB's simply contribute to pet overpopulation, and the animals pay in the end by dying in shelters. Some people are idiots, granted, and you can't fix stupid. But you can strive to show the average JoeQ why it is a bad decision.

A pet store just makes it easy to impulse buy. And return it after Christmas. Hopefully, not just dump it somewhere. I wonder what the pet stores do with those? Not only that, the simple act of the pet store buying puppies from these BYB's and/or mills, is just keeping them in business.

It's hard to turn away from a cute puppy, but remember, there will just be another created to take it's place if you succumb.

saltcreep · #5 03-24-2011, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EmilyB

These BYB's simply contribute to pet overpopulation, and the animals pay in the end by dying in shelters.

Exactly! Why are the pet retail stores being targeted instead of introducing tigher legislation to regulate dog sales?

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Originally Posted by EmilyB

A pet store just makes it easy to impulse buy. And return it after Christmas. Hopefully, not just dump it somewhere.

Again, tighter regulations.

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the simple act of the pet store buying puppies from these BYB's and/or mills, is just keeping them in business.

Is there proof that the dogs are coming from a mill or a less than desireable BYB?

sphelps · #6 03-24-2011, 07:34 PM

It would make sense to me to require all dog breeders to carry a form of business license and enforce certain regulations. The city already looks online for businesses advertising under a name that's not registered with the city so it wouldn't be much more trouble for them to look into dog breeding as a business as well. Looking currently on kijiji, with the number of puppies for sale is astonishing and most are clearly BYB.

I did my best to get my pup from a "reputable" breeder but it's pretty hard to tell so having better regulations is something everyone can benefit from. Signed the petition in person during dog class

Jamieh · #7 03-24-2011, 07:39 PM

Dissappointing Phelps that you would be lead but such tactics "all pet stores are bad" I hope in the future PETA doesn't turn their attention to the fish hobby.

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It would make sense to me to require all dog breeders to carry a form of business license and enforce certain regulations. The city already looks online for businesses advertising under a name that's not registered with the city so it wouldn't be much more trouble for them to look into dog breeding as a business as well. Looking currently on kijiji, with the number of puppies for sale is astonishing and most are clearly BYB.

I did my best to get my pup from a "reputable" breeder but it's pretty hard to tell so having better regulations is something everyone can benefit from. Signed the petition in person during dog class

sphelps · #8 03-24-2011, 07:41 PM

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Dissappointing Phelps that you would be lead but such tactics "all pet stores are bad" I hope in the future PETA doesn't turn their attention to the fish hobby.

Haha I don't think that at all, I don't agree with the petition on all levels, it's not perfect but IMO better than doing nothing.

Jamieh · #9 03-24-2011, 07:44 PM

Imagine there being a problem with wild caught fish so a petition is put out that keeping any fish be banned in the City of Calgary. Is it better to sign this petition or do nothing. I would suggest in regards to such a petition the answer is to do nothing with the petition and send your Councillor some better suggestions.

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Haha I don't think that at all, I don't agree with the petition on all levels, it's not perfect but IMO better than doing nothing.

lorenz0 · #10 03-24-2011, 07:41 PM

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Oh, and to who it was above who mentioned getting a boston terrier, please do your research on the problems common in the breed

Thanks for the advice champ. If you re-read my post you would know that I am not ready for one at this time. For the past 7 years I have had my heart set on one and yes I know about issues with the dog.

Aquattro - I am not used to small shops. where I used to work, dogs weren't around long enough for any employee to get attached to. I guess in a smaller shop or a town this would not be the case. But I do agree that they should not be in those boxes for long periods of time. Even some larger shops have incorporated a "play room."