quarantine tank question

[tony_3a]

Originally Posted by globaldesigns

Well Daniella3d, good for you... In my case I have only ever lost one fish to ICH, a Powder Blue, and that was almost 3 years ago, when my tank was new. So in saying that, I am quit successful with my fish, without quarantining or hypo. So explain why that is, I don't quarantine anything. As you state it, I should be having lots of problems then.... HMMMMMM..... As you stated also holds true for me "no ich. None, niet. Never any outbreak, nothing"

I guess what I am saying is what you say isn't the Godly truth and if you don't do it your way, its wrong.... Cuz that isn't the case. Many ways for many people I guess.

To the thread creator and others seeking knowledge, just take all advice in stride... Non of us can claim to be experts, so please just use your common sense. If you choose to QT, go for it, if not then that is fine also.

I just recently set up a qt tank for a emperor angel that got the crap beat out of it, I had to quickly set up the tank or the fish would die(didnt move out of the top left corner of the tank for over 24 hours with its back bent and laboured breathing), Anyways after one day of in the qt tank, it was eating very well, and then 3 days ago I noticed very very bad ich, all over the fish probably over 100 spots, and that night I lowered the salinity to 1.15 or so, and as of today, i cannot see a single spot on the fish. Also i know it is advised not too, but i have a couple pieces of lr in there from my sump, and a very very very thin sand bad. IMO the fish seems that the fish would feel more comfortable.

But that is just my thoughts, very likely could be wrong.

Im assuming it got the ich because i used the water from the tank and couldnt wait for the tank to cycle with new water and such.

[abcha0s]

Originally Posted by tony_3a

I just recently set up a qt tank for a emperor angel that got the crap beat out of it, I had to quickly set up the tank or the fish would die(didnt move out of the top left corner of the tank for over 24 hours with its back bent and laboured breathing), Anyways after one day of in the qt tank, it was eating very well, and then 3 days ago I noticed very very bad ich, all over the fish probably over 100 spots, and that night I lowered the salinity to 1.15 or so, and as of today, i cannot see a single spot on the fish. Also i know it is advised not too, but i have a couple pieces of lr in there from my sump, and a very very very thin sand bad. IMO the fish seems that the fish would feel more comfortable.

But that is just my thoughts, very likely could be wrong.

Im assuming it got the ich because i used the water from the tank and couldnt wait for the tank to cycle with new water and such.

I'm sure that you mean 1.015 - this might not kill the Ich. You have to take it down to 1.009. You need a refractometer to do this safetly.

If you are not medicating then live rock and sand in the qt tank is a good thing. No worries there.

Just make sure you lower and then raise your salinity slowly. Rapid jumps are bad. Raising to quickly is much riskier then lowering to quickly.

Good luck.

[tony_3a]

Originally Posted by abcha0s

I'm sure that you mean 1.015 - this might not kill the Ich. You have to take it down to 1.009. You need a refractometer to do this safetly.

If you are not medicating then live rock and sand in the qt tank is a good thing. No worries there.

Just make sure you lower and then raise your salinity slowly. Rapid jumps are bad. Raising to quickly is much riskier then lowering to quickly.

Good luck.

sorry, its right around 1.011, I saw in a couple different places that going below 1.010 could hurt the fish? Is this not true?

Thanks for the input!
Tony

[lastlight]

If you just noticed the ich and then the spots are gone I believe the parasite has simply just gone into it's next phase: hatched and burrowed into the fish. I'm not really too smart with disease but I think that's close.

[tony_3a]

Originally Posted by lastlight

If you just noticed the ich and then the spots are gone I believe the parasite has simply just gone into it's next phase: hatched and burrowed into the fish. I'm not really too smart with disease but I think that's close.

Ive had ich a couple times, and from what ive noticed even when it is around for a couple days you always see some spots on it, and now they are completely gone.

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by tony_3a

Ive had ich a couple times, and from what ive noticed even when it is around for a couple days you always see some spots on it, and now they are completely gone.

even if they are completely gone off the fish if the fish has been in your display then ich is already there and can likely show again when conditions arent right or stress is high.

hyposalinity is all fine and dandy but if you havent done it to each single fish before entering your display then its not "completely gone" .

healthy system = healthy fish

[tony_3a]

I know it is not ever completely gone, but most of the time the fish are not stressed, i just got a new fish that one of them didnt agree with so the beat up fish got stressed out and it came back. When i said its completely gone i meant in the qt tank, i know it will be in the display tank until i can get rid of it one way or another.

Originally Posted by reefwars

even if they are completely gone off the fish if the fish has been in your display then ich is already there and can likely show again when conditions arent right or stress is high.

hyposalinity is all fine and dandy but if you havent done it to each single fish before entering your display then its not "completely gone" .

healthy system = healthy fish

[phreezee]

Originally Posted by reefwars

hyposalinity is all fine and dandy but if you havent done it to each single fish before entering your display then its not "completely gone" .

I notice that everyone mentions quarantining fish, but if you are not quarantining your coral frags and LR in a separate fallow (fishless) tank for 6-8 weeks, you also run the risk of infecting your display. It only takes a drop of water to infect your display. Every addition you make resets that 6-8 week counter. You basically have to have the patience of a saint.

[daniella3d]

I have my 3 fish in 1.009 for a month and half now and they are in great shape, eat like little pigs and are ready for the ride back to normal salinity wich will take a good week. I don't think that 1.009 can hurt the fish, or mine would not feel so good after so long.

I have a blue tang, a kole tang and a blue damsel in there in a 21 gallons. Should be a stressfull situation but they behave great and look great.

Thanks to the porous liverock the water quality is also great. I think keeping good water quality is the key and the liverock create a hiding place and the fish feel much better if they have their little quiet place to hide.

Originally Posted by tony_3a

sorry, its right around 1.011, I saw in a couple different places that going below 1.010 could hurt the fish? Is this not true?

Thanks for the input!
Tony