Vortech Mp10/40 ecotech upgrade

mike31154 · #1 02-26-2011, 04:48 AM

I run the two MP40W ES on my 77 in the EcoSmart Tidal Swell Mode (TSM) at just under max power. Occasionally I'll also switch them to the EcoSmart Nutrient Transport Mode. I upgraded the drivers to EcoSmart models some time ago and figure since I paid for the drivers with the new EcoSmart modes, why not use them? The EcoSmart modes provide the most benefit when you have 3 pumps in Master/Slave configuration, one on each end and one on the back glass. On your 90 gallon, two MP40s with the MP10 on the back glass would be ideal, then you could definitely lose the Koralia. With an MP40 & an MP10, you'll probably need to keep the Koralia going on a tank your size with SPS corals, depending on your aquascaping I suppose.

The MP20 to MP40 upgrade includes a larger power supply in addition to the new driver. This provides the added power to drive the MP40 to the significantly higher max flow rate over an MP20.

asylumdown · #2 02-26-2011, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mike31154

I run the two MP40W ES on my 77 in the EcoSmart Tidal Swell Mode (TSM) at just under max power. Occasionally I'll also switch them to the EcoSmart Nutrient Transport Mode. I upgraded the drivers to EcoSmart models some time ago and figure since I paid for the drivers with the new EcoSmart modes, why not use them? The EcoSmart modes provide the most benefit when you have 3 pumps in Master/Slave configuration, one on each end and one on the back glass. On your 90 gallon, two MP40s with the MP10 on the back glass would be ideal, then you could definitely lose the Koralia. With an MP40 & an MP10, you'll probably need to keep the Koralia going on a tank your size with SPS corals, depending on your aquascaping I suppose.

The MP20 to MP40 upgrade includes a larger power supply in addition to the new driver. This provides the added power to drive the MP40 to the significantly higher max flow rate over an MP20.

You can slave two pumps to one master? I thought one master could only have one slave (and for all the rest of you... Get your minds out of the gutter!)

The Codfather · #3 02-26-2011, 05:00 AM

yes you can slave multiple pumps to one master. Personally I would go with 4 40's, it will give you better placement options.

asylumdown · #4 02-26-2011, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The Codfather

yes you can slave multiple pumps to one master. Personally I would go with 4 40's, it will give you better placement options.

I was afraid you were going to say that.

500 bucks per pump... gulp! Save for retirement, or have an awesome tank...

good thing I'm still young!

The Codfather · #5 02-26-2011, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by asylumdown

I was afraid you were going to say that.

500 bucks per pump... gulp! Save for retirement, or have an awesome tank...

good thing I'm still young!

Know what you mean, they are quite pricey and I am not totally sold on them yet. I have 2 mp40w es right now, but have opted to use 4 tunze wave boxes in my new build, I know they are quiet and bought all 4 used with a 7095 controller for about 800 total. I will try the tunze first, but may go to the vortech's down the road.

Smudge · #6 02-26-2011, 05:06 AM

I am running 2 MP40 ES on my 150 and more than enough flow for me. Usually run them in Tidal or Nutrient Transport mode. I don't think there is a limit on the amount of slaves you can have. If in doubt go to Ecotech site and download the manual.

asylumdown · #7 02-26-2011, 05:38 AM

just ordered a second MP40... I'll try and slave them all together and see how it goes.

I shouldn't be getting this excited about water pump. I really shouldn't.

BlueTang<3 · #8 02-26-2011, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by asylumdown

just ordered a second MP40... I'll try and slave them all together and see how it goes.

I shouldn't be getting this excited about water pump. I really shouldn't.

I have the 2 60's opposite sides of the tank on opposite corners. I am having a few issues with the pump and having difficulty getting service. I think the next pumps i buy will be tunze also.

mike31154 · #9 02-26-2011, 03:57 PM

Options for configuration with mulitiple VorTechs is almost limitless. Your wallet is the limiting factor I reckon. Number of slaves as already mentioned is unlimited. You can also build separate master/slave groups on the same system. Some folks even run them all randomly on their own schedule for some really chaotic results.

Surprised to hear there are issues with the MP60s. As far as service is concerned, IME EcoTech is generally very responsive and forthcoming.

asylumdown · #10 02-27-2011, 01:12 AM

I've been looking at videos of what these puppies can do on pulse mode. My tank water level is full to the rim when the return pump is running so I don't think I'll ever be able to use those modes, but this will give me 2 MP40s and 1 MP 10 on my system. I'm going to put the MP40s opposite each other and the MP10 on the back wall and play around with things and see what I can achieve in terms of flow patterns.

Nutrient export mode looks interesting, but if it makes to much of a wave there's going to be water all over the floor...