Clam troubles

BlueTang<3 · #1 02-02-2011, 03:07 AM

heard lots of problems in Edmonton recently between 3 people at a lfs they have lots 46 clams or something. They are saying it is some parasite that came in with a new shipment or something like that. I have 11 and have only lost a clam to a filefish.

The Grizz · #2 02-02-2011, 03:13 AM

More then a couple here too, except the one I got from you Wes and ones from Globaldesigns.

xtreme · #3 02-02-2011, 03:16 AM

I've lost a couple over the last few months as you know. And now my teardrop maxima seems to be on the way out.

Not sure why?

kien · #4 02-02-2011, 03:20 AM

I've notice the clam incidents lately and have been keeping a close eye on mine. So far so good. I have not added any clams since last spring I think?

The Grizz · #5 02-02-2011, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kien

I've notice the clam incidents lately and have been keeping a close eye on mine. So far so good. I have not added any clams since last spring I think?

Ya but like I said before Kien you could make a rock grow

christyf5 · #6 02-02-2011, 03:38 AM

lost one last month, it had some small hyroid-y looking things on it. I think they irritated the mantle enough that it retracted and wasn't getting enough light. Anyways it croaked. Today I find another one with two aiptasia living inside the shell at one of the ends. I scraped them out with a needle and hopefully that will work, it had its mantle retracted too.

Probly not the info you're looking for but I've had a lot of caffeine

Delphinus · #7 02-02-2011, 03:50 AM

Had 14 or 15 this time last year, most of them long term survivors ... now down to 5. That's probably enough said right there.

Actually no .. I'll keep talking for 32 seconds more. It's unfortunately not surprising. Clam death has got to be one of the most contagious things, they literally have no backbone (har har har) to stand up to peer pressure of dieing. "Come on, everyone else is doing it .. " / "Ok Ok, get off my back <dies>"

I think what happens is a sick clam releases a lot of clam-specific pathogens after it dies and they find the next host as soon as they can. Or it could be as simple as when one kicks off, it's a bioload spike but thing is you'd think you'd notice other things suffering too - usually serialized-clam-death is rather clam specific.

Unfortunately in my case I would say not all were inexplicable (I can think of specific causes in at least 2 or 4 cases). Although the rest were totally inexplicable.

silentcivilian · #8 02-02-2011, 03:48 AM

**sigh** Ill come clean, I may have possibly influcened this via a private message..

Wont name drop, but picked up a new clam off a fellow reefer.. well established 8" Squamosa.. here is the story (hums fresh prince while typing)

Time for story by picture...

Go to get clam at a gas station in NW, I meet him for pick up, put it into heatbox in car as its -40'c outside, at styrafoam box with heatpacks.. get home, check it, slightly pulled back, put lid on, put in tank floating to acclimate water..

acclimating and slowly adding water to get it used to my parameters... left lid on so I wouldnt shock it..

once lights are out, put it in tank, has no negative reactions (about 1.5hours in bucket).. check 2 hours later, still fine.. go to bed. Wake up.. look at it, still fine maybe even showing signs of returning to full extension.. go to work for 12 hours.. come home to this..

very very retracted into shell..

stuff spewing out the back...

its really pulled back and I can see stuff in its mouth up front that doesnt look happy.. checked parameters.. everything looks to be in check.. nothing else in the tank seems affected.. all the zoas are good, leathers are good with good polyp extension, sps is fine, frogspawn is happy and hammer is happy..
two more macro pictures..

mouth and its ejecting its intake of food which I understand is a shock reaction.. similar to some eating disorders humans suffer..

im new to clams but read alot.. I know its not supposed to go that far passed the mantel or its under lying tissue..

SOOOOO... checked tank, no param problems to be heard of..
Flow good..
Problem noted approx 12 hours after last known goodtime.. aka put in tank after purchase from another member..
Secretly watched fish from distance.. no one nipping or even going near it for that case..
Crabs only stay on the rock unless they fall.. I apparently bought the allergic to sand crabs.. its true, there is a grave yard to one side of tank of preworn shells..
Turned off daylight lamps and left only acitnic lights on incase this just light shock..

anything else you may know there fellow Clam gurus..

What do I do if anything!!

reefwars · #9 02-02-2011, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueTang<3

heard lots of problems in Edmonton recently between 3 people at a lfs they have lots 46 clams or something. They are saying it is some parasite that came in with a new shipment or something like that. I have 11 and have only lost a clam to a filefish.

yup heard the same thing that its a supposedly parasite came in on a shipment.....i know about a dozen people who lost clams recently some have lost quite a few and are asking the same questions. will we ever know??